Nra Recap, Can't Members Acknowledge The Illegal Lobby?

foundingfathers · #1 (**permalink**) 05-21-2007, 08:53 PM

I respect the right to bear arms, defend your space, loved ones. Can't you also do that with a cross bow? They're more accurate, more deadly....Hummmmm.

That's not the issue I wanted to bring up, all I want is for someone that is patriotic, someone that loves this country to explain to me why the NRA feels it needs to bribe and corrupt the legislative process know also as "Lobby" or "Special Interest on K Street?

It is a corruption of the law making process - big time! How then can you as a NRA member/supporter for 1 minute think the NRA is an pro American? It is clearly not, it represents less than 2 percent of the US population and sets the gun policy laws for the other 98% - some percent like that.

The NRA is no better than the NAZI PARTY in its methods, in its methods. Not the organization in itself, only in its methods, methods.

Gun laws need to be made by a majority in this great nation, not through money bribes in the form of lobbyists - totally corrupt. Maybe I need a gun, not from criminals, from corrupt NRA members and leaders.

I percieve an NRA lobbyist as a criminal, so can I shoot him? He's breaking the law, he's not obeying the law, can I shoot him? Use my gun?

Probalby not. 100% Hypocrisy, it's OK for people to break the law for what you want with gun laws but not OK for other crimes to happen - you're a "Fair Weather American" it means you only care about yourself, as long as you get what you want.

Sad and very lame, a very poor American all NRA members are in reality and I live right outside the Marine Base, 29 Palms, CA and I'm a veteran of the gulf war guys.

nathanbforrest45 · #2 (**permalink**) 05-29-2007, 02:42 PM

What about the NEA or trial lawyers or any other group that uses lobbyist to get its message out? I have nothing against lobbyist. They are a way to make our voices heard to Congress. We are a Representative Republic, how else would you suggest we make our concerns or desires known.

Your 2% of the population is somewhat suspect when you consider the fact that there are over 100 million guns in the hands of the citizens of this country.

Personally, I find your screen name to be one of the most offensive I have ever seen. You no more understand what the founding fathers wanted than IHNR understands logic

Eternal Footman · #3 (**permalink**) 05-29-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by foundingfathers

I respect the right to bear arms, defend your space, loved ones. Can't you also do that with a cross bow? They're more accurate, more deadly....Hummmmm.

That's not the issue I wanted to bring up, all I want is for someone that is patriotic, someone that loves this country to explain to me why the NRA feels it needs to bribe and corrupt the legislative process know also as "Lobby" or "Special Interest on K Street?

It is a corruption of the law making process - big time! How then can you as a NRA member/supporter for 1 minute think the NRA is an pro American? It is clearly not, it represents less than 2 percent of the US population and sets the gun policy laws for the other 98% - some percent like that.

The NRA is no better than the NAZI PARTY in its methods, in its methods. Not the organization in itself, only in its methods, methods.

Gun laws need to be made by a majority in this great nation, not through money bribes in the form of lobbyists - totally corrupt. Maybe I need a gun, not from criminals, from corrupt NRA members and leaders.

I percieve an NRA lobbyist as a criminal, so can I shoot him? He's breaking the law, he's not obeying the law, can I shoot him? Use my gun?

Probalby not. 100% Hypocrisy, it's OK for people to break the law for what you want with gun laws but not OK for other crimes to happen - you're a "Fair Weather American" it means you only care about yourself, as long as you get what you want.
Sad and very lame, a very poor American all NRA members are in reality and I live right outside the Marine Base, 29 Palms, CA and I'm a veteran of the gulf war guys.

A crossbow more deadly and accurate than what?. . .a slingshot maybe. And that doesn't even touch rate of fire. And you claim to be a war veteran

Q: What was in question before and is now leaving through the window.
A: Your credability

You then go on to call the fact you can't shoot perceived criminals, hypocrisy. What? Not all criminals are life threatening. This thought process is quite scary.

BTW- Which one is it, Montana or California?

36shadow · #4 (**permalink**) 05-29-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by foundingfathers

I respect the right to bear arms, defend your space, loved ones. Can't you also do that with a cross bow? They're more accurate, more deadly....Hummmmm.

That's not the issue I wanted to bring up, all I want is for someone that is patriotic, someone that loves this country to explain to me why the NRA feels it needs to bribe and corrupt the legislative process know also as "Lobby" or "Special Interest on K Street?

It is a corruption of the law making process - big time! How then can you as a NRA member/supporter for 1 minute think the NRA is an pro American? It is clearly not, it represents less than 2 percent of the US population and sets the gun policy laws for the other 98% - some percent like that.

The NRA is no better than the NAZI PARTY in its methods, in its methods. Not the organization in itself, only in its methods, methods.

Gun laws need to be made by a majority in this great nation, not through money bribes in the form of lobbyists - totally corrupt. Maybe I need a gun, not from criminals, from corrupt NRA members and leaders.

I percieve an NRA lobbyist as a criminal, so can I shoot him? He's breaking the law, he's not obeying the law, can I shoot him? Use my gun?

Probalby not. 100% Hypocrisy, it's OK for people to break the law for what you want with gun laws but not OK for other crimes to happen - you're a "Fair Weather American" it means you only care about yourself, as long as you get what you want.

Sad and very lame, a very poor American all NRA members are in reality and I live right outside the Marine Base, 29 Palms, CA and I'm a veteran of the gulf war guys.

Ah 29 stumps oohhra so you were in admin. now you are correct in one way a crossbow is more deadly to body armor if it is not backed up with plating, but that is it. I have been against the NRA in the past but the more i learned the more i saw the sad truth you need them to be radical and imoral to fight the radical and imoral peorple they fight, if the NRA did not exist we would have no gun rights and by the way they are both criminals and it is pathedic things have to be done that way. but a majority of you public officials are currupt all the way up to the white house are you going to be so quick to shoot them? Or are you going to be so nieve to make excuses for there illigal activity some of which make the NRA look like saints? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Still Dizzy · #5 (**permalink**) 05-29-2007, 04:38 PM

Wow thanks for the reminder! I need to renew my membership. Should I open a membership in your name also?

ElvisLives · #6 (**permalink**) 05-30-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foundingfathers

I respect the right to bear arms, defend your space, loved ones. Can't you also do that with a cross bow? They're more accurate, more deadly....Hummmmm.

That's not the issue I wanted to bring up, all I want is for someone that is patriotic, someone that loves this country to explain to me why the NRA feels it needs to bribe and corrupt the legislative process know also as "Lobby" or "Special Interest on K Street?

It is a corruption of the law making process - big time! How then can you as a NRA member/supporter for 1 minute think the NRA is an pro American? It is clearly not, it represents less than 2 percent of the US population and sets the gun policy laws for the other 98% - some percent like that.

The NRA is no better than the NAZI PARTY in its methods, in its methods. Not the organization in itself, only in its methods, methods.

Gun laws need to be made by a majority in this great nation, not through money bribes in the form of lobbyists - totally corrupt. Maybe I need a gun, not from criminals, from corrupt NRA members and leaders.

I percieve an NRA lobbyist as a criminal, so can I shoot him? He's breaking the law, he's not obeying the law, can I shoot him? Use my gun?

Probalby not. 100% Hypocrisy, it's OK for people to break the law for what you want with gun laws but not OK for other crimes to happen - you're a "Fair Weather American" it means you only care about yourself, as long as you get what you want.

Sad and very lame, a very poor American all NRA members are in reality and I live right outside the Marine Base, 29 Palms, CA and I'm a veteran of the gulf war guys.

As a new member this has to be the sillyiest post I have read so far. Just how is the NRA lobby Illegal or a corruption of the legislative process?, because they are a pwoerful grassroots organisation with millions of members who care about the issues. They are no different that the thousands of other organizations that lobby capitol hill. They promote free speech and educate lawmakers on thier positions. Gun laws are made by a mjority of americans through thier elected representatives, at the national and state level. sorry to inform you but the NRA does not cast one vote. If you don't like the results, take it up with your congressperson, state rep or gun control lobbyist (who obviously is not doing a good job)

Try defending yourself or loved ones with a crossbow- assinine! you'll end up dead.

BTW- the NRA is located in fairfax VA and has no "K street" interest.

Silly post with no facts behind it

And what prey tell is the NRA methods that are supossedly like the NAZI party

Commonsense · #7 (**permalink**) 05-30-2007, 12:53 PM

You are all wasting your breath. I guess I am too. This moron hasnever followed up on any of his posts. He throws out some gobbley gook then disappears. He claims he is a war hero, and a spy, and has powerful friends. He is a 12 year old.

36shadow · #8 (**permalink**) 05-30-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Commonsense

You are all wasting your breath. I guess I am too. This moron hasnever followed up on any of his posts. He throws out some gobbley gook then disappears. He claims he is a war hero, and a spy, and has powerful friends. He is a 12 year old.

you follow F/F on other threads and then thread them together a picture emurges religion has no place in polatics (take morality out of polatics) lets eliminate the NRA or it is crooked an breaks the law ie. get rid of them (make it easier for the govt. to strip your right to bear arms hense the public has no way to protect themselves) Is it only me that is geting the picture. HE'S NOT 12 YEARS OLD ARE YOU SURE HE'S NOT A COMMY BASTARD. best way to destroy america is from the inside out. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Commonsense · #9 (**permalink**) 05-30-2007, 04:27 PM

Then I guess we should just drown him in a bucket of piss before he has a chance to reproduce.

foundingfathers · #10 (**permalink**) 06-02-2007, 01:27 PM

Commonsense, your screen name is an oxy moron at best. I actually have a life and can't sit in front of my damn computer responding to the crap you spew all day.

36shadow - you're not much better, you attack the messenger "me" and not the message which my comments reflect closely with public opinion so you must be mad at most of America as well.

Caustic replies are the product of a small and severly limited mind. Try and be more constructive, both of you without the emotion - seriously.