Psychos should in no way be allowed to purchase a gun, it is pathetic it took 31 lives for this Governor to make this happen.

We need stricter gun laws, I'm all for that.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

Cat, the background investigation should have always included those who have received or are receiving court ordered mental health treatment. That is common sense, and, I am surprised that this is not currently part of the system. Immigration status should also be lumped in there too.

Lady, that is common sense, not stricter. It is a function of making the background investigation more complete. We don't need stricter, just better enforcement of what exists.

I wonder if the Virginia rule will be struck down as discriminatory? The only way to make the mental health check part of the process is to include a persons mental health issues on the NCIC system, which will be available to every cop and employer that does a similar check. Not a bad thing, but will probably bring up issues of patient privacy and discrimination in the future.

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64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule it.

CS, my point is that the NRA time after time has lobbied against these sorts of practical things (a real no-brainer) and many loopholes are sitting in many places that allow nutjobs easy access to weapons. The 2nd Amendment does not say mentally impaired people have the right to bear arms. So the the NRA is for psychos having full access to guns?

Call your local NRA chapter and just see what they say about putting these sorts of common sense restrictions in place. I bet you will get a brick wall...just like what thier heads are made of in regards to this specific issue of common sense gun control for nutjobs.

H.I.P.P.A., a Federal law, prevents that. Never gonna happen.

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That is what I thought Dizzy.

Cat, I think you over demonize the NRA in alot of these posts. I do not think that the NRA would lobby against this change. The NRA would lobby against a bill which would be touted as this simple change to make things better, but attached to it in small print is a complete ban on any firearm .50 cal and above.

The exec VP of the NRA came out and said that there should npt be firearms allowed on college campuses. After the VT murders there was a large call for both extremes, arm no-one, arm everyone....NRA chose the arm no-one side...

The problem with alot of the gun rights issues is the way they are presented. As with everythin in politics...it is politics. A bill is never clean. When a piece of sensible legislation is presented (x), it is paired and joined with something unnacceptable (y). After the NRA fights the (y) legislation abd wins, the gun haters claim the NRA blocked (x)

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64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule it.

Can this be another example in how PC has made this country weeker. Back when our for fathers drafted our constitution. They in no way or form realized the threat of Modern Day Liberalism which stems from marxism.socialism... because these ideas had not even been born yet. When i hear you libbs claim that our for fathers did not have in mind machine guns and automatic weapons i shake my head in disgust...........

But i would like to clearly argue that the threat of a gun is universal. As is the security of owning a gun... And the threat of a gun is the same as it was back then. Becuase in reality all you need is one bullet fired out of one gun. With this simple knowledge and commen sense that we as a society have lost. And by the way has been replaced with the PC culture. A madman like cho would of been confronted instantaniously by other armed individuals...

Now we have Our government and politicans telling us what is and isn't commen sense.

...and lets do a little investigation and look at some stuff:

Right to privacy, the NRA support, and keeping arms out of the hands of psychos:

The NRA runs the other way if anything in support of mentally ill people having guns...

If their position is 'very clear' then why did they not lobby hard for each state to close these loopholes that would help register mental incompetent people with the FBI data base? I do not see that anywhere, they have not used their resources for that purpose. Would that not help the NRA's position in the long run? The NRA obviously did not put a hell of a lot of energy into dealing with this on a state to state basis and allowed these loopholes to sit there. In the short term it is a tactic to erode the gun control position and do the "told you so" in the end. Now 30+ people are dead because of something so simple which the NRA was in the prime position to help with; there is no other lobbying group even close to the equal of the NRA in terms of money and power. I don't see how they help themselves when this happens, it takes numerous people getting killed for the NRA to actually do something which is more logical...

But, NO gun restrictions, an all or nothing tact is what the NRA has been defending when going into court…and we get 30+ dead because Cho was allowed to buy guns. The NRA needed to put their money where their mouth is; LaPierre is basically full of it.

No, this has zero to do with demonizing. This has to do with being pro-active to do the right thing and the NRA has not done that. They have a great deal of money to be able to do this and it would only help their own position; dealing with mentally ill people and weapons as clear as glass. The right to privacy goes away when mental instability comes into play here, especially in regards to live weapons. The NRA has not put resources into this. This is the same as the NFL players union covering for thugery for so long but it took a crisis to get their attention and finally support a ban on Jones and the players from the Bengals.

When shootings like this occur who is the shooter? Think of all the high profile cases and it is some guy, mainly white and male, who lost his cookies. Makes the mainly white and male membership of the NRA look bad by association, doesn't it? LaPierre says their position is clear. Therefore, do something about it and help to draft legislation that really does something about mentally ill people acquiring weapons. There has been no help from the NRA, if anything they have run the opposite way.

And yes, I do agree with the fact that many times a group like teachers unions do not help themselves by being pro-active for standards. Therefore, this is not exclusive to the NRA and lobby groups many times hurt themselves. The NAACP is going through a round of not helping themselves also. My view is not demonizing just the NRA.