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03-27-2007, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SydneySteel
Most of the world's problems can be traced back to the fact that WE HAVE TOO MANY LAWYERS. People have lost sight of what's wrong and what's right because of them. We KNOW that stealing is wrong and that a thief who falls through a roof and broke his leg got some of what he richly deserved. BUT then a lawyer comes along and says that that isn't right, a judge agrees and the homeowner ends up being WRONG when he really didn't do ANYTHING wrong. It makes NO sense, but our lives depend upon how slick our lawyer is or how whacko the judge is.
My favorite case in point is that of John Couey. Criminals in this country no longer fear going to prison AT ALL. Prison reformers, fast talking lawyers, and activist judges have reduced prisons in their effectiveness to the point that the criminals have no regrets. When Couey abducted, tortured, raped and buried alive that 9 year old girl in Florida he was on parole and had been arrested 46 TIMES. 46 TIMES! And obviously released 46 TIMES! It's a twisted joke on US.
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Another point I want to bring up to you is the 3 strikes...that is such bullshit...The reason why these criminals are in and out of jail all the time like John Couey is because THE FUCKING CHARGES DONT STICK! thats such bullshit its disgusting...like a criminal can be charged 10 counts of felonies..and if he takes a deal then they will reduce everything and give him a lesser sentence...wtf is that shit...charge him with everything!
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03-27-2007, 07:03 PM
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I have sat on a Grand Jury before...a wonderful month long experience... Buut I can give you a little heads up about why some criminals get so many chances and/or light sentences when convicted...
It is slick lawyers and sad little loopholes in the law. Normally, in court cases, the sitting jury never gets to hear about all the prior arrests or convictions. Lawyers argue that they are on trial for this one offense only, not all prior bad acts...Normally will then make mention of past deeds inaddmissable. Now we got to hear the histories on those we had to choose to indict or not. We were privy to info the jury was never going to see.
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03-27-2007, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by katntx
I have sat on a Grand Jury before...a wonderful month long experience... Buut I can give you a little heads up about why some criminals get so many chances and/or light sentences when convicted...
It is slick lawyers and sad little loopholes in the law. Normally, in court cases, the sitting jury never gets to hear about all the prior arrests or convictions. Lawyers argue that they are on trial for this one offense only, not all prior bad acts...Normally will then make mention of past deeds inaddmissable. Now we got to hear the histories on those we had to choose to indict or not. We were privy to info the jury was never going to see.
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I couldn't agree with you more. What would the Jury do if they knew about the previous "46 arrests"? It depends on your location. How about L.A., OR N.Y.C.? They'd say it's a sure sign of "Police Harrassment", and set him free...  
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03-27-2007, 07:15 PM
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And that's why I choose to live on neither coast......Thank you very much....There is merit in many "liberal" arguements but all that aside, I choose to live in a place where I feel a conservative outlook is a more tolerable environment.
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03-27-2007, 07:16 PM
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With exception to the legal courts on many cases....forgot to add that
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03-27-2007, 07:18 PM
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I couldn't agree with you more. What would the Jury do if they knew about the previous "46 arrests"? It depends on your location. How about L.A., OR N.Y.C.? They'd say it's a sure sign of "Police Harrassment", and set him free... |
Yes we have Police Brutatility issues alot here in California.......I dont know if I believe them or not... I will disclose my information on that subject cus Im not in the mood to deal with all the arguements hahaha...
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03-27-2007, 07:25 PM
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We had a local police brutaliy case last summer where the family of a "fatally tazed" person was suing the PD. It was proven the taze didn't kill him. Hitting the ground did. The cops had been called for domestic distrb. The guy had beat up his girlfriend. When she ran outside to the cops, he followed. He was obviously drunk and many wittnesses testified to as much. The cops told him to stop and drop but he failed to do so, still charing like a crazed rhino...They tazed him. He went down hard and banged his drunken head on a rock lining the sidewalk and flowerbed. The PD won that case.
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03-27-2007, 07:30 PM
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We had a local police brutaliy case last summer where the family of a "fatally tazed" person was suing the PD. It was proven the taze didn't kill him. Hitting the ground did. The cops had been called for domestic distrb. The guy had beat up his girlfriend. When she ran outside to the cops, he followed. He was obviously drunk and many wittnesses testified to as much. The cops told him to stop and drop but he failed to do so, still charing like a crazed rhino...They tazed him. He went down hard and banged his drunken head on a rock lining the sidewalk and flowerbed. The PD won that case.
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Damn right they shouldve won that case...This was in Texas? See out here in California it wouldnt have sat well at all and the PD would have most likely lost out here... The race card is played big time out here...
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03-27-2007, 07:32 PM
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Yes we have Police Brutatility issues alot here in California.......I dont know if I believe them or not... I will disclose my information on that subject cus Im not in the mood to deal with all the arguements hahaha...
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I lived in C.A. for about 20 years. I loved it as a kid. I'd get up with my amigos and all pile into the van. Take off and hit Big Bear first for skiing, then on to the high desert for some bike riding...And drive like Hell to get back to Laguna Beach to watch the Sunset.
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03-27-2007, 07:40 PM
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I lived in C.A. for about 20 years. I loved it as a kid. I'd get up with my amigos and all pile into the van. Take off and hit Big Bear first for skiing, then on to the high desert for some bike riding...And drive like Hell to get back to Laguna Beach to watch the Sunset. |
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yes yes we all love So Cal...however you cant deny that it has MAJOR downfalls...all the crime going on here..Even the "nice" areas are now becoming a haven for the gangs and criminals...
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