I mean no offense either Kat. I'm only talking about simple Home Protection too. It doesn't get any simpler than this. The only drawback I found was that it's messy...

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you know whats ridiculous? People breaking into your home and getting hurt and sueing you...Whats more is the courts put up with this ridiculous circus freak show...HAS EVERYBODY FORGOTTEN THE POINT? HE BROKE IN!! HE WAS AN UNINVITED GUEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

I think the best advice about guns for home protection that I haven't read here is this: Make sure that whatever gun or ammo you use is not such a high caliber that the shot will go through the wall of the room you're in or through the wall of your home and into an unintended victim. You just want to stop the aggressor, not take out a family member, your tv or the next door neighbor.

Grandad grew watermelons and kept a double barrel shotgun at the ready loaded with rock salt. He salted more than a couple of teenage behinds in his day, and I'm sure it was never the same behind twice. Funny thing was that had they asked for it, he would have given them a watermelon, but I guess they thought it'd be more fun to steal.

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Without women, money would have no meaning......Aristotle Onassis.

The only change I'd make to your statement is, I'd drop the last 4 words off your final sentence. And replace them with (HE IS DEAD MEAT).

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A Liberal is a Man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel (Robert Frost 1874-1963).

exactly...

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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

Heard an argument on the radio just today about this very subject. Seems that we live under the rule of such judicial tyranny that we aren't really allowed to protect our homes and loved ones without fear of at least being sued. Several years ago there was a case in which a professional thief fell through the ceiling of the place he was going to rob and broke his leg. He sued the owner for his injuries AND WON. The judge decided that the owner kept an unsafe ROOF. That isn't justice!

Anyway, the talk on the radio devolved into a discussion of booby trapping which, as I'm sure you know, is illegal in the U.S. Some folks who called in couldn't believe that it was illegal, but it is. The comment from the host was, "Breaking and entering does not deserve the death penalty and if you create a booby trap that kills, you are a murderer."

In South Africa carjacking had gotten so out of hand that the owners now have strategically placed flame throwers on the doors. Carjacker puts his hands on your car or gets close, owner pushes a button and the jacker is instantly fried. It is almost always fatal. Host of the show thought that was abominable and would never be allowed in the U.S. I know it is extreme, but have you ever been jacked? Creep tried to jack my neighbor. She didn't move fast enough to suit him and in her surprise, dropped her keys so he shot her.....TWICE, once in the hand and it came out her arm and once in the abdomen and it came out just above her groin. Had it been any bigger than a .22, she'd be dead. Do you think if we fried a few, there'd be a decrease in the frequency?

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Without women, money would have no meaning......Aristotle Onassis.

WHO CAME UP with THAT assininine LAW?

I'll give ya ODDS

Random Chance

I worked professionally in simulation for 11 years. We liked to model things with cause and effect. When we didn't know the causal mechanism for a process, or it was too complicated for us to model, we used the random number generator instead. Here is the C source code for a random number generator, this one from the Microsoft C++ compiler.

long Random(long *holdRand)
// Returns a random long integer.
{


return(((*holdRand = *holdRand * 214013L + 2531011L) >> 16) & 0x7fff);
}

float frand(long *randomSpot)
/* returns 0.0 <= random number < 1.0 */
{

float floatnum;
floatnum = (float)Random(randomSpot) / (MAXRAND + 1.0);
return(floatnum);
}

Does anyone really think that every living creature has these lines of code inside its reproductive system? Does anyone claim that there is really a cosmic random number generator? My professional experience in simulation leads me to conclude that "random chance" means "I don't know how this works," or "I do know but it's too complicated to model." One could use physics equations to model the throw of a pair of dice on a craps table, but it would be extremely difficult. Random number generators reproduce the expected results, not the process. We use simulation and random number generators to reproduce the statistical results over thousands of trials. The term "random chance" has been used to imply some sort of Godless, causeless wandering. But in reality "random chance" is a statistician's technique for modeling processes that are beyond our comprehension. It is a valid technique, but it has no theological implications, except the ones stated so vividly in Job 38-41.

http://www.theistic-evolution.com/th...evolution.html

GIGGLE

SEE! Sydney, Thats the kind of shit im talking about...Where the fuck did our values go? Everyones so worried about the fucking "victim" they forget about the cause..He fucking fell through the roof so he sued?? HE WAS ROBBING THE PLACE GODDAMNIT! Dont forget this! THIS COUNTRIES MORALES AND VALUES ARE GOING DOWN THE SHITHOLE MORE AND MORE EVERYDAY AND IM SICK OF IT!

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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

Most of the world's problems can be traced back to the fact that WE HAVE TOO MANY LAWYERS. People have lost sight of what's wrong and what's right because of them. We KNOW that stealing is wrong and that a thief who falls through a roof and broke his leg got some of what he richly deserved. BUT then a lawyer comes along and says that that isn't right, a judge agrees and the homeowner ends up being WRONG when he really didn't do ANYTHING wrong. It makes NO sense, but our lives depend upon how slick our lawyer is or how whacko the judge is.

My favorite case in point is that of John Couey. Criminals in this country no longer fear going to prison AT ALL. Prison reformers, fast talking lawyers, and activist judges have reduced prisons in their effectiveness to the point that the criminals have no regrets. When Couey abducted, tortured, raped and buried alive that 9 year old girl in Florida he was on parole and had been arrested 46 TIMES. 46 TIMES! And obviously released 46 TIMES! It's a twisted joke on US.

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Without women, money would have no meaning......Aristotle Onassis.

I suggest we find out who his Lawyer is, and the presiding Judge is in the Cases...We then set John Couey free only on the condition that any future "transgressions" he does, is on their Families...

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