32 shootings in Chicago

noneof yourbusiness · #21 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellowjacket

According to the anti-gun "experts", Chicago should be a safe city. After all, they completely banned private possession or sale of handguns 16 years ago, and they lead the nation in gun confiscations with an average of 10,800 per year for the past decade. (Source: Chicagomag.com Bang! - Chicago Magazine - March 2008 - Chicago )

The idiocy of the logic is that a criminal would feel he cant kill somebody cause a weapon is illegal to own. People just don't think.

oceanbreeze · #22 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

The idiocy of the logic is that a criminal would feel he cant kill somebody cause a weapon is illegal to own. People just don't think.

Nahhhhhhhhhhh....really...do tell how people don't think?

noneof yourbusiness · #23 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

Nahhhhhhhhhhh....really...do tell how people don't think?

Your a shining example your crazy bitch.

oceanbreeze · #24 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Your a shining example your crazy bitch.

BIGOT. RACIST. YOU HATE CRAZY PEOPLE~

(AND you also hate pigs!)

noneof yourbusiness · #25 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 06:18 PM

You remind me of...

oceanbreeze · #26 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

You remind me of...

That was funny, I'll stop.

wolf_22 · #27 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wow

Law-abiding citizens do not commit gun crimes. Why take their guns?

Despite its ban, Chicago tops the nation in confiscated firearms. Last year, Chicago police seized about 7,400 guns and received 6,000 at voluntary turn-ins. Over the past decade, Chicago police have confiscated an average of 10,800 guns per year. Chicago Police spokeswoman Monique Bond sees the high confiscation numbers as evidence that guns are ubiquitous here: "Anyone can get a gun," she says. "You can get a gun like you can get expensive sneakers." But she insists those statistics also reflect that law enforcement has been aggressively cracking down on guns in the city.

I didn't say anything about tkaing their guns- am I for taking away guns?
I'm actually half/half. my point is that owning guns isn't limiting crime. and if you don't have a record or slip through the cracks, you can buy a gun and use it for crime if it pleases you.
the last few school shootings at universities have been done with guns bought from legal places (although the V-tech killer by law wasn't suppose to be able to buy a gun)

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Originally Posted by Yellowjacket

No law abiding citizen in Chicago has ever used a firearm in self defense or to "scare off" a burglar? Never even deterred a potential intruder? Quit trying to convince people that anti-gun laws prevent crimes. The Chicago murder rate and felony assault rate disproves that theory. It boils down to the fact that criminals, by their very nature, don't obey the laws. Therefore, only the law abiding are disarmed, making them an easier target for the criminals.

not true.
people owning guns doesn't limit crime. its not just illegal guns that the police are counting. there are many legal gun shops and many people who guns. we still have crime up the ass.
obviously the answer to gun problems isn't more guns. we're proof of that

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

None of these killings were commited witha legaly obtaied weapon. NO gun law stoped these crimes.

So you take away weapons fro people that never commit a crime and these killings are stoped how?

You aren't going to stop guns from being sold illegally. Nobody knows where they are they are not registered. Soviet military weapons like the AK47 and Chinese SKS have been produced in such quantities over the decades since they were designed by some many foreign and domestic manufactures that they alone exceed the population of allot of countries. There are litteraly billions of those two gun type alone. So what do you want? House to house search of the entire 300 million people in America? Is that what you want? Then go work for Dick fucking cheney.

You cant not assume peopel as quilty for owning a weapon and still realiticly claim to be for a free nation.

NOw if hadfuls of people got out guns last night and went after wahta re reported as individualy no realtied shootings. Whod they go after...suspects that are not apprenheded or indentified? Lunch mobs that snatch perps from squad cars and jails?

Guns in the hands of store owners and private citsznes give the innocent victoms the opurtunity to derned themsleves. There is no logical way to refute that. Last night in Chitown sure as hell is no example of it not working.

read my other comments.

J04miller · #28 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

You remind me of...

You m-er f-er's are funny.

noneof yourbusiness · #29 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

I didn't say anything about tkaing their guns- am I for taking away guns?
I'm actually half/half. my point is that owning guns isn't limiting crime. and if you don't have a record or slip through the cracks, you can buy a gun and use it for crime if it pleases you.
the last few school shootings at universities have been done with guns bought from legal places (although the V-tech killer by law wasn't suppose to be able to buy a gun)

not true.
people owning guns doesn't limit crime. its not just illegal guns that the police are counting. there are many legal gun shops and many people who guns. we still have crime up the ass.
obviously the answer to gun problems isn't more guns. we're proof of that

read my other comments.

There is no excuse or statistic that can justify leaving people defenseless. banning guns wont solve crime. Having a gun isn't about solving crime. It's about not being defenseless if your a victim of one.

DEMOCANT · #30 (**permalink**) 04-22-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wow

Not a single law-abiding citizen committed these shootings, yet Obama wants to take guns from law-abiding citizens?
Obama is a freaking drive-by gangsta!

37 shot in city over weekend :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Chicago Crime

Weekend of rage
CRIME WAVE | 32 shot in city, six of them fatally, since Friday

April 21, 2008
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BY RUMMANA HUSSAIN AND LISA DONOVAN Staff Reporters

In gang-related drive-bys, an attempted robbery and other flashes of violence, some 37 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend -- seven of them fatally.

A 26-year-old was killed in his home, two teens on the same South Side street, another man as he sat in the office of his plumbing business.

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Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis (right) speaks at a press conference about the number of shootings and stabbings that occurred in the city over the weekend. First Deputy Supt. James Jackson stands behind Weis.
(Keith Hale/Sun-Times)

Chicago Police officials acknowledged that the nearly three dozen shootings were high for a short time frame but not unusual when the mercury starts rising.

Blacks are responsible for committing the vast majority of crimes here in the United States.

For example, in 1993, there were 20,343 Americans murdered: Blacks, who compromise 12 percent of the U.S. population, committed 11,686 or a whopping 58 percent of those murders. The black murder rate was 38.8 per 100,000. Based on their murder rate in 1986, Hispanics committed an estimated 2,242 murders in 1993. This is 10.7 per 100,000. 76 percent of the U.S. is White (European-American) and they committed only 29.5 percent of the murders. On the other hand, Black and Hispanic minorities combined constitute 21 percent of the population, yet they committed a staggering 68.7 percent of the murders in the U.S. during 1993.

This means, on a per capita basis, a Black person is 12.3 times as likely to commit murder as a White person. Since this information is not deemed "politically correct" and would perhaps offend the black segment of society, it is offset by falsely inflating the per capita basis for whites by backhandedly including Hispanics and other ethnic groups.

Here are some more shocking statistics:

More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year.
Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks.
About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992.
In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S. Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than Whites the same age. Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites. Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population. On a per-capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crimes than Whites. Some 27 million nonviolent crimes were committed in the U.S. in 1992 alone. 31% of the robberies involved Black offenders and White victims; only 2% involved White offenders and Black victims.

The FBI Uniform Crime Reports are available on the Internet at Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports