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Old 04-05-2008, 03:32 AM
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The Second Amendment is perhaps the most misunderstood of all provisions of the U.S. Constitution. Criminal defendants and the gun lobby have repeatedly claimed that reasonable gun laws must be struck down as a violation of Second Amendment rights. Yet the U.S. Supreme Court and an overwhelming majority of federal appellate courts have held that the Second Amendment protects only a right to keep and bear arms in furtherance of a well-regulated militia.
From the Brady Campaign to "prevent" Gun Violence...


How idiotic is that statement. Let us disect the whole of their statement here. I challenge anyone, I encourage dissenters from my theories here to actually find a hole in my argument.

The Philadelphia Convention, over a outspoken public criticism of the Articles of Confederation, got to together to change a few things and give our early Republic a polishing.

The two competing groups, (Probably America's first Proto-Political Parties) The Federalists and the Anti-Federalists. Argued back and forth over whether to ratify a Constitution that was the result of the above paragraph. Each side (the Federalists) proposed a stronger centralized state with broad powers to regulate trade, commerce, monetary policy, as well as the ability to keep a standing military to deal with Domestic Rebellions. Armed Revolution being a popular pass time for various people during that pass time. I imagine armed revolution was like how Americans nowadays play Basketball or Play video Games.


Anyways, The Anti Federalists. In generalized terms, feared a strong and centralized Federal Government would become another Tyrannical state like that of the European Empires.

They where rather unsuccessful at blocking the Constitution from becoming law. They did however push the Bill of Rights onto ink and paper. Thus ensuring that Federal Power would not have the ability to deny the inalienable rights of the Citizens.

These Brady People for the "prevention" of Gun Violence would than have you believe that for some stupid ass reason. They decided to list a Government power in the bill of rights. The right for the Government to arm men for the sole purpose of maintaining a Militia or whatever they attempt to argue about.

The Bill of Rights, the First ten articles of the Constitution. As you can find here, The Constitution

Would actually show you, where the powers of the Federal Government are listed. None of them are listed in the Bill of Rights. Some new powers where added to the preceding amendments. Giving the Government the power to Outlaw Alcohol. Abolishing Slavery, Giving Women the Right to vote. Which, the last two really just adding more Individual Rights to the list of the specific ones listed.

Anyways, The Bill of Rights only lists Individual Rights of the Citizens and goes on to say that if it ain't covered here, You State Governments can pick up the tab, or the People have free reign to do as they choose. The 1-10 Amendments are not in fact, Governmental powers as the Brady Campaign for the "prevention" of Gun Violence would like you to believe.

I can list many Founding Father Quotes from Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, Washington, Webster, and so on. That clearly indicate the purpose, intent and definition of the 2nd Amendment.

Perhaps it would be good to simply reword it to say...

Congress shall be forbidden from Denying any citizen the right keep and bear arms, unless convicted of a crime or mentally unstable.

States have the right to reasonably restrict machine guns and explosives Weapons only.
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:39 AM
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Common sense should not be abandoned in this issue. A gun is a personal protection issue, and a sporting issue, and a historical issue, a collectible issue. At the top of the list is the personal protection issue.

WHY should I agree to give up my gun when there is an overwhelming amount of the criminal element that refuses to do so? Common sense says to keep a gun to protect yourself and your home and your family from the criminal element.

There is no such thing as "gun control." That is an illusion and a product of a bunch of whining and squealing fagged out demorats. No one "controls" the guns except for the gun owner. The majority of the gun owners - criminal and non criminal - are not going to respect a gun ban, and I dont blame them for it. The world is too dangerous of a place in which to live without weapons to protect yourself.

An idiot gives up a gun in the face of an overwhelming criminal element that is armed to the teeth.
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Old 04-05-2008, 11:13 AM
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Common sense should not be abandoned in this issue. A gun is a personal protection issue, and a sporting issue, and a historical issue, a collectible issue. At the top of the list is the personal protection issue.

WHY should I agree to give up my gun when there is an overwhelming amount of the criminal element that refuses to do so? Common sense says to keep a gun to protect yourself and your home and your family from the criminal element.

There is no such thing as "gun control." That is an illusion and a product of a bunch of whining and squealing fagged out demorats. No one "controls" the guns except for the gun owner. The majority of the gun owners - criminal and non criminal - are not going to respect a gun ban, and I dont blame them for it. The world is too dangerous of a place in which to live without weapons to protect yourself.

An idiot gives up a gun in the face of an overwhelming criminal element that is armed to the teeth.
When I go out with my wife (seldom), I always take a weapon. I'm too old to put up much of a fight without one and I could never forgive myself if something happened to her because I did not have a gun with me.
These are bad times and look like they are going to get worse. If you are not armed, you're a fool.
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:40 PM
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When I go out with my wife (seldom), I always take a weapon. I'm too old to put up much of a fight without one and I could never forgive myself if something happened to her because I did not have a gun with me.
These are bad times and look like they are going to get worse. If you are not armed, you're a fool.

Where do you live that you feel it necessary to carry a gun when you go out, Bagdad? Let's hope you never have to use it because the chances are you will end up in jail or dead. "These are bad times," what times are they? When were the good times?
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:39 PM
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Where do you live that you feel it necessary to carry a gun when you go out, Bagdad? Let's hope you never have to use it because the chances are you will end up in jail or dead. "These are bad times," what times are they? When were the good times?

Crime does not have a home base. It is worse in some areas than others but it exists all over.
Of course I hope I never have to use it. Are you so nieve that you think everyone who carries a gun wants to use it? I think I explained my reasoning plainly enough.

I will never end up in jail because I will always use my gun as allowed by law and I'd rather be dead than watch someone assault my wife.

The good times were the 40's, the 50's and part of the 60's. Can't you tell the diference?

I've commented to you in the past that you just run your mouth without saying much. You are still at it. You're the one with your own web spot..right?
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:58 PM
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Where do you live that you feel it necessary to carry a gun when you go out, Bagdad? Let's hope you never have to use it because the chances are you will end up in jail or dead. "These are bad times," what times are they? When were the good times?
When it suddenly becomes necessary is the wrong time to make a belated decision that you wish you were carrying. I don't know one rational person who, when carrying, hopes he does have to use a firearm. A firearm is only used as a last resort when all other options have either failed or been ruled out. In that situation, you or one you are protecting will surely be dead if you don't use it so that point is moot. As for jail, it's not good but it beats dead.
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[quote=Quinns Commentary;364910]Let's hope you never have to use it because the chances are you will end up in jail or dead. /QUOTE]

No, chances are if he doesn't have the protection he feels he needs he will be dead. Like they say... "better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it!" When will you coward anti-gun folks learn that when law abiding people cary a firearm they are not out gunning for trouble--that's what criminals do. These are people who are willing to exercise their inalienable right to defend themselves, their loved ones and others. We call them heroes. You anti-gun cowards... we call victims.
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:12 AM
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How come the bloggers who come here always have the dumbest ass replies?
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:25 PM
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I, for one, wish they'd hurry up and enact Zero Tolerance Anti-Gun laws as quick as possible.

I'll feel so much safer knowing that law-abiding criminals are only armed with knives and hammers instead of guns. It will take me a lot longer to die from cuts and bruises than from bullet holes. Add to that a much stronger Police presence, maybe triple or quadruple, and you greatly increase the chanes of Police arriving on the scene before I finish dying and catching the criminal in the act.

Sounds like Utopia to me, folks...what could go wrong? Let's ban steak knives, too. Better safe than sorry.
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