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02-21-2008, 02:22 PM
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Thoughts about gun control
Gun control is must in the unstable country we now live in. As a Virginia resident and friend to some of thoughs who were effected at Virginia Tech, i believe we need to toughen up our gun control laws. There is no reason a man who was a known threat to his own saftey should even have been allowed to touch a gun. I believe the country as a whole needs to supply laws that limit the flow of guns. We also need to make it harder to get guns. I think there needs to be more laws limiting guns to people who have mental problems even people who were given depression pill from their doctor. We as a people need to make sure that another VT or NIU never happen again.
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02-21-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Khappa09
Gun control is must in the unstable country we now live in. As a Virginia resident and friend to some of thoughs who were effected at Virginia Tech, i believe we need to toughen up our gun control laws. There is no reason a man who was a known threat to his own saftey should even have been allowed to touch a gun. I believe the country as a whole needs to supply laws that limit the flow of guns. We also need to make it harder to get guns. I think there needs to be more laws limiting guns to people who have mental problems even people who were given depression pill from their doctor. We as a people need to make sure that another VT or NIU never happen again.
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I agree with making it tougher for people with a mental history to get access to guns, yet why no discussion on having armed guards on campus? What about a professor who has a permit? Why is he not allowed to carry a weapon? Is it because this will lead to another NIU or VT?
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02-21-2008, 05:03 PM
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Gun control would not have prevented the Virginia Tech tragedy. What might have prevented it: His parents getting him help, his teachers getting him some help, the courts institutionalizing him. The system failed him and the other students, not guns.
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02-21-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ZakattackSJ
I agree with making it tougher for people with a mental history to get access to guns, yet why no discussion on having armed guards on campus? What about a professor who has a permit? Why is he not allowed to carry a weapon? Is it because this will lead to another NIU or VT?
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i agree but my opinion on guns on school property is that any gun on university OR public school property should be restricted to armered personal. if they have too they should put metel detectors up.
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02-21-2008, 06:29 PM
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Gun control would not have prevented the Virginia Tech tragedy. What might have prevented it: His parents getting him help, his teachers getting him some help, the courts institutionalizing him. The system failed him and the other students, not guns.
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the only problem with that is that you cant count on others to do that even if there told. the person might also not even care what they have to say. so gun control could of because the vt shooter had a background and if a proper or more in depth background search was made then it could have been prevented
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02-21-2008, 09:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Khappa09
Gun control is must in the unstable country we now live in. As a Virginia resident and friend to some of thoughs who were effected at Virginia Tech, i believe we need to toughen up our gun control laws. There is no reason a man who was a known threat to his own saftey should even have been allowed to touch a gun. I believe the country as a whole needs to supply laws that limit the flow of guns. We also need to make it harder to get guns. I think there needs to be more laws limiting guns to people who have mental problems even people who were given depression pill from their doctor. We as a people need to make sure that another VT or NIU never happen again.
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No way I think limiting guns in that way is an infringement on the individual. Your taking the right for one to protect oneself on the principal of something they might do. It wouldn't be long before this principal found itself into courts
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02-21-2008, 09:56 PM
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We have passed all kinds of Gun Control. DC even shredded it's citizen's constitutional rights and decided they are not allowed to protect themselves. How good is Gun Control working in DC? Or Chicago? Or New York? Or Los Angeles?
Truth is, Gun Control should only be reasonable restrictions, if any. Cities like DC, who practically say your rifle has to be disassembled and your ammunition kept out of your clips with a trigger lock and case in your own home, need to get a clue and realize that the availability of Guns means nothing if crime gets worse as you restrict that availibility along with it. Which is the case in America.
Not to mention, legally. I don't have to ask anyone's permission to own a gun. I have that right as defined under the Constitution. I can also say what I feel like, and do as I please with my own body. Yet, moral regressivism and Neo-Socialism, would have us all believe we need the State's permission to excercise our rights.
Which is not the case. All Rights are absolute.
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02-22-2008, 08:23 PM
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If ALL students who can qualify for a ccw permit were allowed to acquire one and go armed, the mass killing might have been stopped at 1 or 2. Forced disarming of potential victims merely ensures the success and safety of the criminal.
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02-22-2008, 08:33 PM
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Forgetaboutit, DammitBoy![sic].
No Univeristy Regents are going to permit gun-toting Repubs onto campus.
They know you're a Wanker too, and likely to kill all the wrong people.
Last edited by A. Crowley; 02-22-2008 at 08:40 PM.
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02-22-2008, 08:43 PM
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A Crowley:
1. Who is Dammitboy! or are you referring to me? If so, please know that I just found this site about 2 hours ago.
2. What about gun toting independents or democrats or libertarians?
3. Again if referring to me, know that I have carried a gun in the line of duty for 25 years, haven't killed a wrong person, or anyone else, yet.
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