Thoughts about gun control

1wiseguy · #41 (**permalink**) 03-15-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Khappa09

Gun control is must in the unstable country we now live in. As a Virginia resident and friend to some of thoughs who were effected at Virginia Tech, i believe we need to toughen up our gun control laws. There is no reason a man who was a known threat to his own saftey should even have been allowed to touch a gun. I believe the country as a whole needs to supply laws that limit the flow of guns. We also need to make it harder to get guns. I think there needs to be more laws limiting guns to people who have mental problems even people who were given depression pill from their doctor. We as a people need to make sure that another VT or NIU never happen again.

Thoughts or Ideas?

Passing more lame laws to restrict law abiding citizens form access and use of firearms will never stop another VT or NIU. The problem is not with the guns but the people. There already is a law that does not allow the mentally ill to purchase guns, but the Dr's didn't do their job of inputing in information in to the system. So long as the focus is not on the source of the problem nothing will change.

cliffrocks · #42 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 10:08 PM

While guns as self defense make a useful argument ,it is not as effective as our founders original intent,guns protect us from tyranny. If everyone in this chat thread was all disarmed tomorrow, we'd have no freedoms to log in and bitch about anyway. just logging on here would get you arrested. I agree with my brother -in- law who says when they come for my guns I am letting them HAVE the ammo first!!

wow · #43 (**permalink**) 03-21-2008, 11:29 AM

Michelle Obama says her husband can get shot while pumping gas into his car.
Maybe she just wants crackers to be disarmed

Gummer · #44 (**permalink**) 03-21-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Khappa09

Gun control is must in the unstable country we now live in. As a Virginia resident and friend to some of thoughs who were effected at Virginia Tech, i believe we need to toughen up our gun control laws. There is no reason a man who was a known threat to his own saftey should even have been allowed to touch a gun. I believe the country as a whole needs to supply laws that limit the flow of guns. We also need to make it harder to get guns. I think there needs to be more laws limiting guns to people who have mental problems even people who were given depression pill from their doctor. We as a people need to make sure that another VT or NIU never happen again.

Thoughts or Ideas?

Has it ever occured to you that criminals and crazy people don't obey laws?

Do you think someone is going to pass "the law" that criminals and crazies will hear and say ..... well they have done it now ..... they passed a law that we can't break? look where the most crime is .... right where the strictest gun control is ...... and it is like that because criminals know their prey is almost certainly UNARMED .....

Gummer · #45 (**permalink**) 03-21-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fedup2

Again....when the government got thier claws in, is when the mess began. It was way too late to even begin the waiting period, or the permit to carry a gun. Who is going to get the permits???? Who is going to hand over the guns??? Do you honestly think the worst offenders using weapons are going through the legal process to obtain a gun?

I never used to believe in owning a gun....until I realized how screwed up our government is, and how they do not look out for the good guys, they cottle the criminals. Guns don't seem so bad to me anymore.

The government needs to butt out. Having them get involved in who can own a gun??? Obviously, from the list of politicians, judging one's character is not their strong point. They don't even know who is in this country or not, let alone who is sane or not. Nah, they have enough making them dizzy. Let's give that job to someone else...maybe the NRA...let them decide.

Where do you find liberals who cry? The libs I see all whine and snivel....

rob · #46 (**permalink**) 03-22-2008, 09:55 AM

Seems strange that libs are ready to say that they beleive in the constitution but only after they amend the shit out of it. They want goverment to regulate us in all matters.

1wiseguy · #47 (**permalink**) 03-22-2008, 04:12 PM

[quote=Khappa09;316581]the only problem with that is that you cant count on others to do that even if there told. the person might also not even care what they have to say. [/Quote}

Whoa...wait a dang minute there bud. You just gave the best reason as to why you DO NOT want gun control. If you can't count on others, then you can only count on yourself and thus the reason as to why the second amendment is an individual right! Sometimes you have to do things yourself!
Providing for your individual security or safety is your responsibility--period. Just try asking a police officer to come help you BEFORE an incident...it won't happen. You all need to get this through your minds... turning over your responsibilities to government will only buy you a false sense that you are being taken care of.

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Originally Posted by Khappa09

so gun control could of because the vt shooter had a background and if a proper or more in depth background search was made then it could have been prevented

There was a proper background check and the idea that there is such a thing as "more in depth" is a fallacy and even at that, by your own admission, you can not count on others--they are not perfect. The closest thing you can get to perfection is to have an armed soceity...it is truly a polite society. The shooter would have thought twice knowing that anyone could be armed and maybe even more proficient than he is/was with a firearm and if that wasn't enough of a deterrent someone armed when he first started shooting would have most certainly shot back and stopped him or would have slowed him down while others who were close by would have certainly arrived with their firearms and simply out gunned him and stopped him. Instead he was allowed to run wild on campus and reload at will with no threat to himself.