To preserve our second amendment liberty, five died in a Northern Illinois University lecture hall on Thursday afternoon in DeKalb. Twenty-one other students were wounded.

The gunman in this case, and the gunman at Virginia Tech that killed 32 people on that Blacksburg campus were exercising their constitutional second amendment right.

And people claim that the students at universities are liberals that are unwilling to die for their country.

What I wonder is why conservatives are unwilling to also die for their principles, to die following the US Constitution and its mandate that the US government merely defend the nation, and not engage in imperialism, imposing their values on others in other parts of the world. Conservatives would do well to listen to Ron Paul.

Yes, like the shootings on the VT and NIU campuses, 911 was a horrible crime, but we deal with crimes after they occur, and not before. That is the nature of liberty, the price of liberty.

For those who claim to love liberty and demand their second amendment rights, and then call for preemptive war and continuing to interfere militarily in the affairs of other nations are hypocrites or unprincipled or merely lying about their love of the Constitution and country.

WHY DO YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH ARE YOU THAT YOUNG AND IGNORANT AND NIEVE ENOUGH TO THINK PEOPLE OTHER THAN IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO BUY YOUR CRAP. He did not exercise his second amendmant right because it says no where in there the right to kill innocent people dumb ass. What you fail to see it is still the person that is a danger not the gun because if he was intent on killing like he obviously was not having a gun is not going to stop him. So he goes in and stabs as many as possible are you then going to outlaw knives? Well are you and if so he gett a bat or sharpens a piece of metal. Look at prison NO WEAPONS ALLOWED they kill when they want hell they melt down coffe cup lids and actualy make shanks out of them and KILL WITH THEM. If this is not an example and a great one then you are stuck on stupid and there is no more talking to you. Wise up kid

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gun free zones in schools should be re-named 'killing fields'...if we were allowed our 2nd amendment rights, then i would guess that there might have been a few people who could have be able to defend themselves against that nutjob P.O.S.

Your thinking on this one is so far out of reality that it makes me question whether you wrote that to see how bad you were going to be toasted, if not you are one strange motherfucker....

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"People have so manipulated the concept of freedom, that it finally boils down to the right of the stronger and richer to take from the weaker and poorer whatever they have left."

What good is having a right to carry guns designed to kill people if you can't kill people with them?

Now having rights to do anything doesn't mean that you are not responsible for the consequence of exercising your rights.

And the beauty of the founders was in recognizing that in almost every single case where people exercise their rights, they do so appropriately without causing others to bear the costs of their actions. So, rather then try to prevent people from doing things, the founders concluded that we trust people to act appropriately until there is clear evidence that they have violated the rights of others.

And this applies to everyone every where.

What I find disgusting are those who decide that some people are less worthy of trust and rights and thus subject to having their rights taken from them without any process at all, other than mere suspicion and fear.

If you desire a completely safe world, then you need to imprison yourself.

But not in a prison run by those who think that "they" should be imprisoned because "they" are scary because those imprisoned are placed almost purposely in harms way. No you need so solitary box hidden away where you can hide and isolate yourself.

Otherwise, you move among society, and random bad things happen. Whether a plane flying into the building you happen to be in, or bullets flying into your body as you sit listening to a lecture at university. The odds of the latter are much much much higher than the former.

And to be honest, the odds of a car flying into you are even higher than of a bullet flying into you. And interestingly, no one claims there is a constitutional right to drive a car.

Republicans, Bush supporters, conservatives who think Ron Paul is a nutcase, should all get a grip and see the world as a wonderful place with many freedoms, with those freedoms carrying a cost to life and limb, but much more likely from the symbol of freedom, the car, then from a "terrorist" or "rogue nation." The politicians call them "terrorists" in order to terrorize you.

By the way, Jefferson is often quoted in part, when the entire context is really required to understand his intent:

This is from a letter he wrote to a friend commenting on Shay's rebellion.

These schools shooting from Columbine to Virgina Tech to the Amish school are but rebellions that are sending a message. The message is not clear, nor is the response clear. But three things are required by Jefferson:
1) set them right as to facts
2) pardon them
3) pacify them

I have no evidence to support it, other than a relationship that might be imagined, but I wonder if the level of violence we see in society, in the young, in increased when government promotes violence as a solution to the problems that government deals with.

Does not Bush seem to advocate violence as the solution to many international foreign relations issues, clearly stating that he simply will not talk to those who do not accede to his demands. Does not Bush set an example for those who find their lives difficult, who expect those around them to conform to their expectations, and if they don't resort to violence?

I do sense a belief that when defend liberty, the idea of those commenting is to defend liberty by killing others, rather than dying to preserve liberty.

That perhaps explains why the sacrifice for Bush's war is shared by only about 0.1% of the American people. Yet, even without sacrifice demanded, the people oppose continuing Bush's war two to one.

If ya don't like it... get the fuck outta the goddamn country.

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Hey...I think Dick Cheney should spend the rest of his days in Gitmo after describing his experience being waterboarded so that the world can define the term as torture, again.

Do I have to leave the country too?

Sure! Why not? Cuba is just 90 miles south of Florida. Give it a go.

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That Gonzalez dude was especially cool, no?

What about Teddy Haggert and Lewis Libby...

They get to stay?

Also, what's the Hammer's position on Larry Craig, and Hastert's on Mark Foley?

How many Mexicans will you allow to remain, and will they all be on your crew?

iS vALERIE pLAME A TRAITOR?

You're gay.

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