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Old 03-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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Note: I consider global warming to be a political issue, not a scientific one.
Cute. Must be comfortable under that rock.
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:48 PM
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In 1990, Bruce began meeting with a student organization at Stanford University called Higher Consciousness. After presenting himself and sitting in on presentations by Stanley Krippner, Nina Graboi, Dennis McKenna and others, Bruce and the leaders of Higher Consciousness planned and put on a major conference, "The Bridge: Linking the Past, Present and Future of Psychedelics." Keynoters were Timothy Leary and Terence Mckenna, and John Lilly, Howard Reingold, Robert Anton Wilson, Francis Huxley (nephew of Aldous), Stanley Krippner, Stephen Gaskin, and Arthur Hastings were among the 60 presenters. After the conclusion of this 1991 conference, Bruce planned his next event, Bicycle Day, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the discovery of LSD in 1993. Bicycle Day was the name Bruce gave to the "50th Anniversary of the discovery of LSD," and Bruce in collaboration with Rick Doblin of MAPS and a student organization at his old almamatter, UC Santa Cruz, put on a celebration in the school's Performing Arts theater. Sharing the podium with Bruce and Rick Doblin was Oscar Janiger, founder of the Albert Hofmann foundation. Videos of Humphry Osmond, Albert Hofmann and Ken Kesey were shown, and also re-enactment of the last LSD trip of Aldous Huxley was performed by Laura and Francis Huxley.

The crisis of environmentalism has been developed as a means to bring about a one-world government: "Through a skillful wedding of socialism, New Age Pantheism and a manufactured climate of despair over a 'dying planet', these powerful individuals (David Rockefeller and Edmund de Rothschild) are creating a climate of fear which will see mankind not only accept, but demand, a one-world government to deliver us from environmental apocalypse. This one-world government will, of course, be the capstone of their planned New World Order. "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill," declared members of the Club of Rome in a sweeping 1991 report on global governance. "All these dangers are caused by human intervention . . . The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
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In 1990, Bruce began meeting with a student organization at Stanford University called Higher Consciousness. After presenting himself and sitting in on presentations by Stanley Krippner, Nina Graboi, Dennis McKenna and others, Bruce and the leaders of Higher Consciousness planned and put on a major conference, "The Bridge: Linking the Past, Present and Future of Psychedelics." Keynoters were Timothy Leary and Terence Mckenna, and John Lilly, Howard Reingold, Robert Anton Wilson, Francis Huxley (nephew of Aldous), Stanley Krippner, Stephen Gaskin, and Arthur Hastings were among the 60 presenters. After the conclusion of this 1991 conference, Bruce planned his next event, Bicycle Day, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the discovery of LSD in 1993. Bicycle Day was the name Bruce gave to the "50th Anniversary of the discovery of LSD," and Bruce in collaboration with Rick Doblin of MAPS and a student organization at his old almamatter, UC Santa Cruz, put on a celebration in the school's Performing Arts theater. Sharing the podium with Bruce and Rick Doblin was Oscar Janiger, founder of the Albert Hofmann foundation. Videos of Humphry Osmond, Albert Hofmann and Ken Kesey were shown, and also re-enactment of the last LSD trip of Aldous Huxley was performed by Laura and Francis Huxley.

The crisis of environmentalism has been developed as a means to bring about a one-world government: "Through a skillful wedding of socialism, New Age Pantheism and a manufactured climate of despair over a 'dying planet', these powerful individuals (David Rockefeller and Edmund de Rothschild) are creating a climate of fear which will see mankind not only accept, but demand, a one-world government to deliver us from environmental apocalypse. This one-world government will, of course, be the capstone of their planned New World Order. "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill," declared members of the Club of Rome in a sweeping 1991 report on global governance. "All these dangers are caused by human intervention . . . The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
interesting ...

but there are many groups trying to create Global dominance from the Trilateral commission to the Zionist movement, the Catholic Church, and even radical Islam.

FACT IS: They all want that ... trick is to make sure that which ever will happen (and it will!),that it happens for the benefit of America.

Unfortunately; the Liberal left will probably try to hand it to Islam or China ...
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:51 PM
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the melting of the ice caps is occurring at a exponential rate. there are very basic graphs that predict future outcome if these rates continue to at this same rate.90% of the earths fresh water is contained in these caps, if this fresh water locked in these ice caps melts into the ocean they are predicting a rise in sea levels that would profoundly change the coastlines of the seven continents, warming is happening no matter what theory you chose to except, and we as a fossil fuel burning people are contributing to the entraped solar energy within our atmosphere.
In case I haven't mentioned it already, the polar ice caps are likely not melting: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=513

BTW: If we are running out of drinking water (which is another environmental leftist claim?), wouldn't freeing up some of the freshwater at the poles be a good thing?
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:54 PM
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are you saying that are ice caps are not melting at a rate we should worry about because it should be chalked up to politics ,and no more.
I am saying that the ice caps may not be melting at all. This type of science, in the absence of experimental proof as to the cause, leads to things like Kyoto- which would put obligations on the U.S. without doing likewise to countries like Red China and India; so yes, it is just politics.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:38 PM
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I am saying that the ice caps may not be melting at all. This type of science, in the absence of experimental proof as to the cause, leads to things like Kyoto- which would put obligations on the U.S. without doing likewise to countries like Red China and India; so yes, it is just politics.
the proof is in the sea levels , the main factor that contributes to the rise in sea levels is the melting of ice, where is this ice? the north and south poles
I would also use caution when receiving scientific information from CAPITALIST NEWS thats like asking phillip and morris company for health advice
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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the proof is in the sea levels ,

And your documentation is what?

How much of the rise in sea levels due to simple erosion?
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