No i am not suggesting that, although Alex Jones printed this article word for word including the same title as the article she linked which was misleading. You only have to look at the links and articles/titles to see they are one in the same.

Pick your poison, they were identical including the title so if you believe Alex was spinning so was the other article. They were identical.

The article title was misleading and the initial post was emotional with comparisons to Westboro Baptist Church/hating someone so I thought she might want to support her opinion. Most of us do that on this forum...

I will not push it...clearly when asked to support or explain her opinion OB does not like it and so that is her decision.

What did you think of the initial post and the title compared to the actual quote by Gore?

You hate everybody you flithy evil bitch.

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The article is the same, if it wasn't he couldn't have attributed it to Poor. However, I doubt very much that the author of this article writes for Alex Jones. As stated, he takes from various sources. While I am sure he does have regular contributing writers, many of the authors of articles on his page have no affiliation with Jones whatsoever. I suspect Jeff Poor is one of these people.

Why would you put "identical including the title" in bold? That certainly doesn't mean that Poor writes for Jones.

What do I think of the title when compared to Gore's quote? Well, although he didn't say specifically that it was caused by climate change, the implication was pretty clear. He was using this incident to create fear/awareness . . . . whatever term one might use, to promote his ideas/agenda. I don't think there is any question the message that Gore was trying to convey, and that was consistent with the title of the article.

The title of Poors article was misleading and said nothing.


Gore's actual quote simply stated "The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we’re seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming.”

Now do you think Poor being a writer for a republican critque might have an agenda by changing the quote in his title portrayl? Alex Jones copied it word for word including the title and changed nothing so you cannot accuse him of spinning it--there was not much in the article and it was the title that was spin and Jeff poor titled it.

You would be so cruel to a poster who supported their argument as she did. I just do not have it in me to do that.

I will let you have the last word...I could spend an hour explaining why her argument with catch phrases and mentions of milk and Westboro church are illogical, but just do not want to waste my time. Heck, the lobby thread might have had more logic.

Tell you what--lets just say yes, in conclusion Al Gore danced with glee as he made millions off the Burma cyclone and he is as evil as the Westboro Church. Jeff Poor reworking the words in the title a little has no agenda even though he works for republican critique organization and addressed nothing with science or logic. In addition because a few studies regarding nutrition have been disagreed upon over the years all scientific studies including the thousands by IPCC, NASA, and peer reviewed studies are all in a CT and all studies are wrong because a few on milk were wrong. Heck that would even wipe out all the medical studies in the past 6 years.

The IPCC, NASA and hundreds of others in the field have been proven wrong by you and OB and are evil like Westboro.

Now If I want to discuss the science with someone who has an opposing view I will discuss it with Badmutha or Palerider because they do bring something to the table besides silliness.

The implication was clear.

"The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we’re seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming.”

If you want to get into semantics, which obviously you do, then he should have said they might be consequences rather than what scientists have long predicted might be associated with global warming. Based on semantics, he did say that the storms were consequences.

I didn't say anything about the Westboro Church and neither did the author of the article. The author also doesn't write for Alex Jones, and the only reason you said he did was to discredit him, which would discredit him if he did - at least in my eyes. I would still read what he said, but would be less likely to believe anything coming form someone on his payroll.

Any time I see you discuss science with someone you merely attempt to discredit them because of associations with one group or another. It is a valid point in some instances, but not all.

In closing, no, Gore didn't say specifically that the storms were caused by global warming, but the implication was real clear. Not only that, he didn't modify the word 'consequences' with 'might', so he did say that the storms were consequences of what some scientists were saying could happen. Again, just semantics, but you are the one who first employed them.

The only reason I even posted was because of the Alex Jones reference. I actually look at Alex Jones site a lot and notice that he uses all sorts of articles on there and just because he uses the articles it doesn't mean that they have anything to do with him in any way.

No, he was pointing out what the hundreds of scientists have been saying this might be an example of it.

Ya Baby..who cares about a little spin... by Jeff Poor

Gore's actual quote simply stated "The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we’re seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming.”

Dom I am not mean enough--I was going to leave her with the last word of westboro/psychobabble/Iraqbaloney and the milk studies. You would destroy an argument this weak. I just move on with certain posters...agree or disagree with the carbon emission induced CC this was silly. I was going to let the thread die...

Uh, yeah, I know the quote. He said we ARE seeing the consequences of what scientists have long predicted might be associated with global warming.

In other words (actually the same words), scientists have long predicted that strong storms might be associated with continued global warming and we are seeing the consequences of that. Same thing.

The implication is pretty clear. Do you honestly not think that Gore was trying to convey that very message?

He was trying to raise awareness/fear level for his agenda via this storm.

Either way, it doesn't matter, anyone who saw or heard Al Gore's quote knows what he meant.

What does being mean have to do with anything? And I do think you are 'mean' enough - not a bad thing IMO. Besides, you did jump on "Westboro/psychobable/Iraqbaloney and the milk studies." I didn't read that stuff anyway, I sort of skim over a lot of stuff if the beginning of the post doesn't hold my interest.

I don't really care about Al Gore, so I don't pay much attention to him.

Like I said, I just commented because I saw Alex Jones's name, and as you know I don't think too much of the guy or what he says.

That being said, and perhaps you don't agree, I think he was trying to convey the message that gw/cc/gc is/was the reason for stronger storms. I think a lot of people on both sides of the issue would see it the same way. He goes on later to expand on that very thing.

As I have stated he conveyed that it might be. Like you, I do not pay that much attention to Gore although I think he is sincere in his beliefs. I prefer to just read the science studies.

And I can see why you skimmed over the Westboro/milk/psychobabble argument.