More Global Warming Nonsense

wyatt earp · #41 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 01:27 PM

I had to laugh out loud when I read this letter to the editor in yesterday's paper:

Global warming could be civilization's undoing : Letters : Anderson Independent-Mail

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Global warming could be civilization's undoing

Global warming is a fact. A warming climate is melting the world’s glaciers and polar ice, but the glacier scientists did not believe it would happen this fast.

The national news outlets have reported that in Greenland, the glaciers are moving faster than ever. The process is irreversible. Greenland alone could push up the sea level by three feet by the next century. Most glaciers in the Alps could be gone by 2100. Over the past 30 years, the Arctic Sea ice has thinned by 40 percent.

In Antarctica, where 90 percent of the world’s ice is, satellite photos show that sections of ice as big as Rhode Island are moving. Some months, ships can pass through the Arctic Ocean without an icebreaker. The temperature of the oceans is up one to two degrees.

By 2100, there will be a billion people in the United States and New Orleans and Miami Beach will be under water. People all over the world will have to relocate and most countries will not be able to take any more immigrants. Most scientists agree that as the world warms, the tornadoes, hurricanes and floods will become more severe. People in the Marshall Islands are trying to save their roads and homes from high tides now.

All of this is caused by man and it could be the end of civilization, as we know it. Nothing is forever on this earth.

Hank McKee, Anderson

ChrisXP · #42 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 04:14 AM

For the intelligent folks out there who still believe in science, some good links on "global warming"...

ICECAP

and...

Watts Up With That?

Like both, and especially what the latter is doing (help him on his endeavor with some free cash if you can -- he's documenting every weather station in the US to ensure they're accurate -- gas isn't cheap now).

Both sites have enough info for a long read, so grab a cold one if you're intent on reading up (and don't bypass the comments, they really add to the articles)!

CrankyYankee · #43 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by coyote

…And you admitted they were possible.

Of course they are possible. I never said they weren't.

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I asked you for an example of something that contributes to economic growth that has been proven to be finite. You have failed to give me a single example. I gave you the example of the one inch line which can have an infinite number of points on it if the points were imposable to measure. Same rule applies to the resources that contribute to economic growth; they cannot be measured, so they cannot be considered meaningfully finite.

The economy is a human system, I was talking about a system independent of humans, the ecosystem. Human life is based on the ecosystem, NOT the economy. Without something to sustain human life the economy cannot exist. The planet IS meaningly finite, to argue anything else is absurd.

For human life to exist the environment is necessary, an economy is not.
Since one is a necessary condition for the other, it is of greater importance.

wow · #44 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee

Of course they are possible. I never said they weren't.

The economy is a human system, I was talking about a system independent of humans, the ecosystem. Human life is based on the ecosystem, NOT the economy. Without something to sustain human life the economy cannot exist. The planet IS meaningly finite, to argue anything else is absurd.

For human life to exist the environment is necessary, an economy is not.
Since one is a necessary condition for the other, it is of greater importance.

You make a good case for eliminating all welfare.

CrankyYankee · #45 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wow

You make a good case for eliminating all welfare.

Thanks.

You've yet to make a good case for anything you support, but we are all waiting....surprise us.

A. Crowley · #46 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 11:50 AM

Wowsa at home

wow · #47 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by A. Crowley

Wowsa at home

Now, you make fun of hyperactive adults?

1wiseguy · #48 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wow

Now, you make fun of hyperactive adults?

Clearly that is from his family album. Ass Crack has to keep his prey tethered up so they don't run away. Besides, he likes the little boys even more when they squirm!

coyote · #49 (**permalink**) 06-03-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee

Of course they are possible. I never said they weren't.

The economy is a human system, I was talking about a system independent of humans, the ecosystem. Human life is based on the ecosystem, NOT the economy. Without something to sustain human life the economy cannot exist. The planet IS meaningly finite, to argue anything else is absurd.

For human life to exist the environment is necessary, an economy is not.
Since one is a necessary condition for the other, it is of greater importance.

Are there urban ecosystems? Can a city be an ecosystem?