Bingo, there's the winner answering.

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Not really- when NASA, the IPCC and global temperatures recorded world wide are documented, verified and recorded as rising and then someone tries to make a case they are not... by a recording of Glenn Beck with nothing to make his case.. it looks ridiculous. This is not even a question of belief in CO2 emissions impacting the rise of temperatures.

Now if Glenn Beck had posted NASA graphs, IPCC graphs and then had a panel explaining why they are wrong on the measured rise in temps I would listen. He said nothing in the Live leak video.

Even if you do not believe that COs causes climate change...do you think NASA is lying when they say global temperatures are rising ? Even the skeptics report rising temps-they just do not beleive in the CO2 cause.

Show me some peer reviewed scientific studies that you have read to conclude that NASA and the thousands of IPCC scientists are wrong and how you came to your conclusion.

BTW I always thought Glenn beck had to be a liberal plant by CNN to make conservatives look stupid- he is such a lame journalist. Seriously- I have conservative friends that could do a better job then him. Watch the live leak video- there was no investigative journalism involved. He was trying to sound dumb on purpose. He has to be a liberal plant to make conservatives look like idiots. Rush Limbaugh is more convincing than Beck.

"Environmentalism is a politics of fear."

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I am not easily manipulated so terror, environmental issues, crime, economic issues do not cause fear in me. I am logical and rational and my conclusions in life are not based on trite sound bytes or vast generalizations.

One could easily point out that much of our military budget has been wasted and based on politics fear and that may be true, yet that does not discount the fact terrorism is a problem that needs addressed even though we have had the politics of fear brought into it. The same could be said about taking care of our earth. Some may bring the politics of fear into it, but that does not discount the problems that must be addressed. I just believe that their are serious issues that need to be addressed (without fear) in order to protect human health and the water and food supplies for the next generation.

In fact, if you bring politics into environmentalism, you should know that the last administration condoned lying and changing legal NASA documents to cover up facts. The person that was caught, resigned and went to work for Exxon Mobile within a week.

Sam; sugar coat it, still not buying it. Sorry.

I believe we should take care of the planet, without fattening others pocket book.

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Question for anyone...

I spent over 34,000 dollars in 2007 disposing properly of metals, blood, body tissues, contaminated surgical supplies etc. Fifty years ago I could have just dumped it in the river or ocean. Those damn feds and environmentalists passed legislation and now I have to incinerate or pay for proper disposal. The politics of fear has hurt my bottom line. Obviously this is sarcasm as far as my values..I would dispose of medical wastes properly regardless of laws..yet not everyone would. Is this an infringement on my rights? I mean really, most likely nothing would come of it if I just dumped it in a water supply or even buried in a hole somewhere. I mean really-if a local company that makes far more than I do feels infringed upon if they have to install something to reduce air pollution and they cry "politics of fear" should we all have such freedoms? Why are some industries outraged if they have to do some small part to leave the earth in the best possible condition for the next generation. Hospitals that follow federal guidelines spend millions to avoid polluting water, air and soil supplies. This all began with environmentalists. Do you think their concern was valid? Were they just fear mongering in the healthcare industry?

Glen beck? Ya, he is unbiased and open minded.

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I grew up on the Saginaw Bay, 20 mintues from Dow Chemical in Midland, Michigan. I know first hand what chemicals and pollutants do to our waters and air. Corporations are liable and need to be responsible for their waste disposals.

My beef is with Al Gore and how he "discovered" globaloney and is trying to instill fear in people.

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But what if they do not want to, it is very expensive. If a person protested that the corporation was liable he would be labeled an environmentalist and is he raising politics of fear? Should the feds get involved if the company contines to dump chemicals in drinking water?
Okay you have a "beef' with Al Gore so you are going to write off NASA and thousands of climate scientists. I have a "beef" with the politics of invading Iraq. I am not so foolish to hold my "beef" so emotionally that I would then say all military action is militarbloney and terrorbaloney. That would be so simple minded.

Pocketbooks were padded by the billions in Iraq. If that is your logic with no further examination of a topic then are you calling it Iraqbaloney and demanding all funding be pulled?

Actually, most including Al gore are rational and not trying to instill fear. They are simply promoting small changes so that we preserve our planet. I listened to his lecture. He did not fear monger-he suggested Americans make small changes in their lifestyle and become aware. What did you think of the NASA and hundreds of IPCC science reports?

Let's be consistent in your logic- if anyone involved with solving any problem rips us off or over states the problem - we can the decide the problem is completely baloney and close our eyes and cover our ears and not fund any studies, solutions or consider any other reports, intelligence or data. With that logic we can disband the military, all federal healthcare regulations,all environmental regulations regarding drinking water etc. All of those industries have had someone involved who did something to rip us off or pad their pocketbooks.

I am just trying to apply your thinking and logic to world problems.

I need to dispose of a lot of mercury and it is expensive. The feds and the environmentalists have pushed it to the point I have to hire a company and pay them to dispose of it for me. Is this envirobaloney? Would anyone here be okay if I dumped it the lake or river by your house?

Have the politics of fear cost me money? Would Glenn Beck make a live link video and make a case for me. I live very well, but I could live even better if i could just dump this crap somewhere without paying for it.