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    Could someone provide evidence that humans can't have some effect on the climate other than "It is egocentric to think that we have an effect, thus we don't have an effect." We can bring this whole planet into nuclear winter if we wanted to. I think we can have an effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybones View Post
    Could someone provide evidence that humans can't have some effect on the climate other than "It is egocentric to think that we have an effect, thus we don't have an effect." We can bring this whole planet into nuclear winter if we wanted to. I think we can have an effect.
    Can you provide evidence they do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Sorry, this guy was part of a global warming hoax faux research paper presented on Rush Limbaugh and does not "believe" in evolution.

    Rush Limbaugh Falls for Global Warming Hoax | DeSmogBlog

    He is a complete joke. He had to apologize to Rush Limbaugh for falling for a hoax paper on global warming.

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    One of big names from the Climate Denier branch of the Flat Earth Society, Roy Spencer, has even apologized to Rush for being so gullible to bite on this fraud. Poor Rush. Poor Roy.
    I require more proof than I have seen so far. It is important to understand that even if it turns out that the Roy Spencer book is fraud, it does not mean that manmade global warming is genuine. It only means that one argument is not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankyYankee View Post
    Depends on what you mean by affected. Every change has an effect.
    To answer your question directly, no.

    But then neither has terrorism, yet I don't know any rational person that would argue currently that nothing should be done about it, because it hasn't affected my immediate vicinity.

    It is prudent to prepare for anticipated adverse events, be they human or natural. That is what should be taken from the current status of global warming knowledge.
    You hae dozens on these threads daily advocating an end to going after terrorist. They refuse to believe that terrorism is real, even after the WTC attacks. So, they may be irrational, and I think they are but I also believe those who think we are the cause of global warming and its something new and inevitable are irrational. Your entire argument seems to be that we might be the cause of global warming, something that may negatively impact us so we should do something, no matter how much it cost and how much we destory our economy and our way of life we should do something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybones View Post
    Could someone provide evidence that humans can't have some effect on the climate other than "It is egocentric to think that we have an effect, thus we don't have an effect." We can bring this whole planet into nuclear winter if we wanted to. I think we can have an effect.
    So tell what effect does the sun since all the global warming nuts never talk about the sun.

    Shouldn't a warming trend or cooling trend start with the heat source.



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    What an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybones View Post
    Could someone provide evidence that humans can't have some effect on the climate other than "It is egocentric to think that we have an effect, thus we don't have an effect." We can bring this whole planet into nuclear winter if we wanted to. I think we can have an effect.

    ROTFLOL.... That is too funny. Can't answer my questions eh?

    You believe in AGW and you want us to disprove your belief?

    LOL Your being ridiculous. Conventional wisdom is that climate is a natural phenomena and it is you AGW'ers who are asserting that man is the cause and we are heading for disaster. It is YOUR responsibility to PROVE AGW, not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Crowley View Post
    What an idiot.
    Whats a matter you have no way to dispute the truth and facts.

    I thought sure you would have an Al Gore lie to try and justify why the sun is not important to global warming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Whats a matter you have no way to dispute the truth and facts.

    I thought sure you would have an Al Gore lie to try and justify why the sun is not important to global warming.
    Sorry, Bushbot....But if I were to debate CC after all that has been established as fact, I sure as hell wouldn't bother with a Flatworlder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Crowley View Post
    Sorry, Bushbot....But if I were to debate CC after all that has been established as fact, I sure as hell wouldn't bother with a Flatworlder.
    So then you have no facts to dispute that scientist have proven we are in a cooling trend.

    You see we did not have global warming only climate change which is a natural thing that never stops.

    But now thanks to the global warming nuts and Gore we are paying for it look at the fuel prices.

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