Originally Posted by Badmutha

Halftime

Bleeding heart tree-humping liberals 0

People with common sense 285


Libs are getting their asses handed to them--and now for some of the highlights.

Consensus
IS there a CONSENSUS on man made global warming?--look no futher than this thread--there clearly isn't. Not on this forum--not from the scientists--not from the experts--and of course not in Washington.

The globe warmed a degree--agreed.....its where the consensus stops--and where liberal derangement begins.

Public Global Warming Debate
On the internet--specifically the forums--is the closest thing you will find to an actual debate over man-made global warming. Why doesnt AlGore or his esteemed minions partake in a public debate over the religion of global warming?

Well this thread shows what happens--AlGore's religion and liberal congregation get destroyed with facts and common sense thinking. To humiliate a religion--is to lose the congregation--Algore and Co. would never risk such a thing--that debate will never take place.

My Expert vs. Your Expert
One of the more amusing parts--as there are plenty of reputable scientists on both side of this issue--but one side is promoted--while the other side seems to automatically get demoted--the moment he commits blasphemy when speaking out against the religion.

Now libs would have you believe every scientist or expert not agreeing with the religion--is automatically on the payroll of Exxon and therefore discredited. Now clearly this is another liberal falsehood--but it still highlights the hypocrisy.

Why is it--a scientist being paid by (Insert industry) is discredited--while a scientist being paid by (Insert hippy organization) is honored? Does greed and bribery not exist in the business empire of global warming? One thing is evident--the world of science and its employees DO NOT get funding (paychecks) for telling us everything is ok --but how the money rolls in when they inform us were all going to die............................................... ....maybe

Reality
Technology and advancement of the human race comes with a price--that being pollution. Now clearly the days of the caveman (liberalis democratis) saw very little man-made pollution--nothing comparable to our present day footprint.

But fighting the winds of liberalism--the world and society has advanced. From the sidewalks you walk on--in the cities and towns--to the house of luxuries you come home too--decades of development and advancement to grant you luxury--at the cost of pollution.

Enter the hypocrisy--to think of all the libs worldwide--that have become worshipers--it is these same tree huggers--that FREELY choose to bask in the luxuries of life--while demeaning those that bring that life to them.

As Algore flys in his gas guzzling jet--back home to his fleet of gas guzzling SUV's--nestled in the garage of his huge power consuming mansion. HOW CAN THIS LIBERAL GOD AND PROPHET SLEEP AT NIGHT??

How can global warming worshipers claim to believe so greatly about a climate armageddon--and yet still insist on their pollution laden luxuries? Unless you are living in a cave--HOW DO YOU WORSHIPERS SLEEP AT NIGHT.

Nestled in the bed of global warming--under the covers of liberalism--hypocrisy seems to sleep rather well--and without guilt.

The End
The end of mankind--could we be advancing to our downfall? We can all admit its possible--but the lack of substantial proof is currently the consensus. While I may not be a believer--if there was clear-cut evidence that mankind was currently destroying the future of humanity--I will grab my bong and join AlGore and his congregation of tree huggers--but until that evidence is presented...I do believe we will survive global warming--just as we survived global cooling.

Global Cooling--Ocean Pollution--Global Warming--and humanity somehow survived--whats next?

Originally Posted by Sam

Hey, I have to laugh, considering the topic of the thread that was a witty response, somewhat crude and at my expence, but funny.

Originally Posted by A. Crowley

Write your representatives, Dom!

Tell them you want a Debate, Gawddamnit!

Originally Posted by crowonapost

I said there is nothing to debate. When 90% of the consensus is that Global Climate change is REALITY. Debate is rather futile.

It's a simple point.

Not only that but in general the media does not find it economically viable to even think of having a debate that's already a given. Climate change is here & happening.

Originally Posted by wvpeach

I guess it depends on your definition of what a debate is .

Can't really say I watched much of them, because as I said I don't think mankind cares about saving the planet , so I have decided its a lost cause.

But debate has been ongoing in congress and the senate . Turn on c-span sometime .

Scientists both pro and con have testified in large groups in front of the congress and senate. Most of the scientists make a good case that global warming is going to be a real problem in about 12-15 years if we don't do something now. The scientists that don't agree global warming is a problem tend to be the ones paid by large oil companies and investment firms. Its pretty funny actually to watch them try to lie about pollution and global warming in a room filled with real scientists who make them look really stupid.


This debate is what has changed Bush and Co.s mind. They now cannot deny global warming is a problem.

The debates then fall along expected political lines.

With the Democrats asking , what can we do , how can we help with this problem .

The Republicans grudgingly admit the problem and then hold their ground and say it would be bad for the US economy ( they mean their lobbyists) it would be bad if the US enacts measures to help curb global warming and countries like China and India just go on polluting at will.

That right there encapsulates the problem. No doubt pollution is starting to drastically effect the earth. No doubt scientists say if we don't get a handle on it the world will not be as we know it now in 20 years, and we won't like what it becomes. It will become hostile to us humans in that food production and clean air and water will be in short supply.

But collectively will the worlds governments do anything about it?

I seriously doubt they will.
When half the worlds population is dead or almost dead , they will think about it..................That is the problem , the Republicans at least are right about that. It won't do much good for a few countries to try to curb pollution and slow down the earths decay , when the majority of emerging industrialized nations don't care about that. What is it to China who is over populated anyway if a few million of their citizens die ?

Originally Posted by A. Crowley

If any of you dipshit deniers had anything to actually A.D.D. to the "debate", you would have been invited:

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Originally Posted by crowonapost

You can debate the varsity, you can debate what economic things need to be done or not. ALL of that is debatable. But whether you like it or not there is really no debate that We are effecting the planet & global climate change is happening & will continue to happen over the next 100 years.

So no you are 100% wrong to state 100% non existence of this reality. That is foolish at best & well rather uneducated on your part.

So if one guy out of 100 hundred says no while everyone else agrees thats significant?

What math class did you take?

Originally Posted by Sam

You are absolutely correct and you just made my very point that the Oregon Petition being bulk mailed to tens of thousands of citizens was a pathetic document. You and cede are two peas in a pod on this one (both of you unknowingly make my point for me) neither of you seem to understand that this bulk mailed letter to anyone with a science background where they could access an address was not only unethical, it was used by the Bush administration as some kind of "proof" that global warming was not an issue. My address is in a national data base, as is my husbands and this was an unscientific document - with a request to sign. Later it was touted as having been signed by 17,000 scientists. What a joke-any serious scientist would not sign such a letter with no study or scientific method or evidence. I scanned the text of this petition if you want to read it.

Originally Posted by Sam

If you have spoken with qualified scientists -they may not have been sent the letter in the late 90's, but they know about it. It is a joke in the scientific community that this petition became the Bush administrations resource for the case against global warming. This really was a scandal missed by the media.

Originally Posted by Sam

Solar output has not increased beyond the normal fluctuations. This has been studied extensively by climate scientist. If you want to make a case for solar output being the cause for earths warming -make it and I will listen.

I speak with confidence on the details and science in my posts-most is just basic physics 101 and laws of science. Explaining water vapor vs CO2 as I did in an earlier post to Rex is just middle school science.

Originally Posted by Sam

I speak with confidence on the details and science in my posts-most is just basic physics 101 and laws of science. Explaining water vapor vs CO2 as I did in an earlier post to Rex is just middle school science.