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Old 11-30-2007, 10:51 AM
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This could best be dealt with by a simple set of laws.


Companys, Corporations and bussiness owners who pollute, pay a fine. Failure to comply to laws, equals bigger fines...

Companys that are clean get tax breaks.

Companys that are not clean pick up the tab for the Tax Breaks.

Allow States to set laws best suited for the protection of there local economys and ecosystems.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:23 AM
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This could best be dealt with by a simple set of laws.


Companys, Corporations and bussiness owners who pollute, pay a fine. Failure to comply to laws, equals bigger fines...

Companys that are clean get tax breaks.

Companys that are not clean pick up the tab for the Tax Breaks.

Allow States to set laws best suited for the protection of there local economys and ecosystems.
Wow! It's really that black and white, huh. Clean companies and polluters. Well, corporations and businesses already pay fines and larger fines are levied to those who have cause EPCRA releases and/or exceed their emissions permits. The fact is, these things, 9.5 times out of 10 are not done on purpose. It's the nature of production in many many industries.

Also, should these rules and regs include consumers as well? How about farmers? Let's see them follow the same guidelines as other industries. Let's define cities, towns, suburbs as waste generators. The larger the population the stricter reporting and regulations get. Ya know, like how industries are broken into large quantity and small quantity generators. Won't happen because they don't make enough money. You see, regulations will be issued to those who can afford to follow such guidelines and fines are issued because regulators know they will get paid. It's that simple.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:53 PM
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Wow! It's really that black and white, huh. Clean companies and polluters. Well, corporations and businesses already pay fines and larger fines are levied to those who have cause EPCRA releases and/or exceed their emissions permits. The fact is, these things, 9.5 times out of 10 are not done on purpose. It's the nature of production in many many industries.

Also, should these rules and regs include consumers as well? How about farmers? Let's see them follow the same guidelines as other industries. Let's define cities, towns, suburbs as waste generators. The larger the population the stricter reporting and regulations get. Ya know, like how industries are broken into large quantity and small quantity generators. Won't happen because they don't make enough money. You see, regulations will be issued to those who can afford to follow such guidelines and fines are issued because regulators know they will get paid. It's that simple.
So, you agree that the listed duties of the EPA I just mentioned are pointless and a waste of tax dollars? Of which we could accomplish them at the local level more effectively and efficiently?
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:06 PM
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So, you agree that the listed duties of the EPA I just mentioned are pointless and a waste of tax dollars? Of which we could accomplish them at the local level more effectively and efficiently?
No.

I don't think we can achieve this type of regulation with a self-reporting, local level type of system. For one, there is too much money and potential coruption to achieve such a task. Two, when you have set something up to monitor such activity, you will end up with something that looks like a watered down EPA with little to no power. No, I don't agree with you.
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