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Old 06-13-2007, 10:41 AM
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18 means he is no longer a minor.
What difference does a year make? Why would it have been rape once the kid turned 18?

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Also, the sex with the girl was consentual - it wasn't rape.
I don't know about Georgia, but in some states a girl who is not yet 18 cannot legally give her consent.

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The girl was not 10-12 she was 15 or 16 at the time.
But what if she had been 10-12? Can sex with a 12 year old girl be molestation if sex with a 15 year old girl can be consensual?

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The other issues that you brought up are just that. Other issues.
No they illustrate how society imposes standards that are not consistent.

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What I was saying was that this was a kid who was getting good grades in school, had been in no trouble that I've heard of and was doing what 17 year old boys do.
Not all. Not all 17 year olds are immoral.

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Being it was consentual and there was no assault, there was absolutely no reason for him to get 10 years in prison.
Again how can sex at 15 be consensual if sex at 10 or 12 is considered molestation/rape?

And if this 15 year old girl can give her consent to a 17 year old, can she likewise give her consent to a 20 year old or a 30 year old or a 45 year old?

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If you want to give him community service or probation and maybe a swift kick in the ass from his (or the girl's parents) then fine with me.
Why? If the sex was consensual, how can the kid be punished at all?
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:34 AM
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What difference does a year make? Why would it have been rape once the kid turned 18?

If the law is 18 years of age and not 17 then a year makes the difference between a minor and an adult.


I don't know about Georgia, but in some states a girl who is not yet 18 cannot legally give her consent.


You should find that out. Maybe I'll look it up. I'd be interested to know.

No they illustrate how society imposes standards that are not consistent.


I agree that some laws are inconsistent with others but let's focus on this particular issue.


And if this 15 year old girl can give her consent to a 17 year old, can she likewise give her consent to a 20 year old or a 30 year old or a 45 year old?


A 20, 30 or 40 year would be charged with statutory (sp.) rape as they should be in that case.


Not all. Not all 17 year olds are immoral.

Being 17 and thinking or having sex does not make you immoral. It makes you normal. It is the parents job of hopefully teaching their kids that sex brings about a lot of risk, responsibility and possible heartache. Calling a 17 year old kid immoral because he/she is curious, horny or engaging in sexual behavior does not make them immoral.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:02 PM
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The girl should be put in prison too in the same cell.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:25 PM
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What difference does a year make? Why would it have been rape once the kid turned 18?

If the law is 18 years of age and not 17 then a year makes the difference between a minor and an adult.
If the law can determine whether someone has been raped why shouldn’t this 17 year old get whatever punishment the law requires when, according to the law, he has committed rape?

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I don't know about Georgia, but in some states a girl who is not yet 18 cannot legally give her consent.

You should find that out. Maybe I'll look it up. I'd be interested to know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape

The age of consent as well as whether or not a minor can legally give consent varies from state to state. It sounds like the law in Georgia says you cannot give consent as long you are a minor even if you “give” your consent to another minor. And in some states both parties to the sex act are liable for punishment.

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No they illustrate how society imposes standards that are not consistent.


I agree that some laws are inconsistent with others but let's focus on this particular issue.
From what I understand of the Georgia law I don’t have any problem with it. In my view the world would be a better place if legally a woman couldn’t give her consent to anyone but her husband.

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And if this 15 year old girl can give her consent to a 17 year old, can she likewise give her consent to a 20 year old or a 30 year old or a 45 year old?

A 20, 30 or 40 year would be charged with statutory (sp.) rape as they should be in that case.
I know that, but what difference does age make? My point is that an underage girl is not mature enough to give her consent so no one should be allowed to take advantage of her.

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Not all. Not all 17 year olds are immoral.

Being 17 and thinking or having sex does not make you immoral.
It does if you are not married to the person you are sleeping with or thinking about.
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Old 06-13-2007, 06:50 PM
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The girl should be put in prison too in the same cell.
Now, why would the law be even more stupid than they already have in this case by putting this 15 year old girl in the same cell with this guy-so this clueless teenage girl can suck more c*ck of her own free will, and get this guy more unjust time? This entire case is so unjust, that it is almost beyond insane.
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