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Old 05-29-2007, 09:25 PM
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All this blabbering about AirAmerica leads me to an honest question about Rush Limbaugh.
I've listened off and on to Rush since the late 80's. I always considered him a talk show host, nothing more or less. I've disagreed with him over the years on a variety of subjects.
But I've always enjoyed his sense of humor and the way HE never takes himself too seriously.
I think he looks at things with a lot of common sense. His conservative roots always come through and he doesn't try to hide who he is, but his ideas are usually grounded in common sense, imo.
I guess I have several questions for any liberal/independents/dems that have ever really listened to him.
1) All excuses aside, AirAmerica has struggled for listeners since its inception while Rush steadily increased his audience. Why were the people so hungry for a Rush type talk show host? And if, as you people seem to believe, the majority of the country thinks like you, why hasn't AirAmerica been as successful?
2) Can one of you provide a verifiable LIE that Rush has spoken? Not something that doesn't jive with your ideology, but a verifiable lie?
3) Can you provide one verifiable instance of racism from Rush? I hear him saying the same to all people. Success is there if you work for it.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:33 PM
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No they cannot . Air Asshole on the other hand spews more hatred in ten minutes that I can stand . They have hosts that advocate assassination of the president and don't even get me started on that JACKASS Frankenheimer . They can struggle all they want as long as they are stealing from children's charities (Boys Clubs of America) but people are getting savvy to their crap , even some liberals don't like their poisonous crap . Yet they are still bashing Limbaugh , it just shows that he is an effective conduit for truth , something Americans crave . We sure as hell don't have but rare few outlets for COMMON sense and truth . Hell they rail on FOX news because SOMETIMES they present the conservative side of issues . The New York Asswipe does NOT approve . Maybe that is why they are hemorrhaging money . I sure as hell am glad I am not stockholder of the New York assrag ! ABC , NBC , CNN , CBS , are NO better ! But YOU are too stupid to make that determination ! I used to read TWO newspapers a day but NO MORE ! They will not get one more dime from mee until they hire some REAL reporters and editors .
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:58 PM
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I've listened off and on to Rush since the late 80's. I always considered him a talk show host, nothing more or less.
Limbaugh will be the first to tell you that his program is for entertainment purposes only. He could have easily mobilized his listeners in a massive protest movement that could have lead to the impeachment conviction of Bill Clinton, but he chose not to do so. He has refused to use whatever political power he may have ever had.

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I've disagreed with him over the years on a variety of subjects.
Same here, mainly on environmental issues and public education.

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I think he looks at things with a lot of common sense. His conservative roots always come through
I wouldn’t go this far. Limbaugh is more libertarian than legitimate conservative. He’s too laissez faire and he generally refuses to allow God to be discussed on his program.

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and he doesn't try to hide who he is, but his ideas are usually grounded in common sense, imo.
But he did go out of his way to hide his Oxycontin(sp?) and his Viagara(sp?).

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1) All excuses aside, AirAmerica has struggled for listeners since its inception while Rush steadily increased his audience. Why were the people so hungry for a Rush type talk show host? And if, as you people seem to believe, the majority of the country thinks like you, why hasn't AirAmerica been as successful?
Bear in mind that Clinton never won a majority of the popular vote. In 1992 he won the electoral votes of only D.C. and Arkansas on the basis of a popular vote majority. Abraham Lincoln won more electoral votes on the basis of popular vote majorities than Clinton did- and Lincoln was in a 4-man race and his name didn’t even appear on the ballot in the states that would soon be in rebellion. The nation was more behind Lincoln than it ever was Clinton.

The only way a liberal can win an election in most states/electoral districts is by running in a 3+ way race or when the Republican candidate is not conservative enough to satisfy the conservative majority and thus that majority does not vote.

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2) Can one of you provide a verifiable LIE that Rush has spoken? Not something that doesn't jive with your ideology, but a verifiable lie?
Is there a difference between a lie and a statement based on questionable data or statements that cannot be readily verified? Limbaugh’s claim that a single volcanic eruption produces more ozone-depleting chemicals (or was it greenhouse gases?) than a year’s worth of human activity does, has been widely questioned in the scientific community because the available data does not support the conclusion. And Limbaugh’s claim that North America has more land covered in forests now than it did when Columbus arrived in 1492 cannot be verified because no one bothered to count the trees that were here in 1492.

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3) Can you provide one verifiable instance of racism from Rush? I hear him saying the same to all people. Success is there if you work for it.
Limbaugh was did a gag about a Miss Ebonics beauty pageant. According to Limbaugh the pageant’s sponsors cancelled the even when they realized no one wanted to be Miss Idaho. If mocking the behavior of a particular race is not racism, what is it?
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:00 PM
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Limbaugh will be the first to tell you that his program is for entertainment purposes only. He could have easily mobilized his listeners in a massive protest movement that could have lead to the impeachment conviction of Bill Clinton, but he chose not to do so. He has refused to use whatever political power he may have ever had.



Same here, mainly on environmental issues and public education.



I wouldn’t go this far. Limbaugh is more libertarian than legitimate conservative. He’s too laissez faire and he generally refuses to allow God to be discussed on his program.



But he did go out of his way to hide his Oxycontin(sp?) and his Viagara(sp?).



Bear in mind that Clinton never won a majority of the popular vote. In 1992 he won the electoral votes of only D.C. and Arkansas on the basis of a popular vote majority. Abraham Lincoln won more electoral votes on the basis of popular vote majorities than Clinton did- and Lincoln was in a 4-man race and his name didn’t even appear on the ballot in the states that would soon be in rebellion. The nation was more behind Lincoln than it ever was Clinton.

The only way a liberal can win an election in most states/electoral districts is by running in a 3+ way race or when the Republican candidate is not conservative enough to satisfy the conservative majority and thus that majority does not vote.



Is there a difference between a lie and a statement based on questionable data or statements that cannot be readily verified? Limbaugh’s claim that a single volcanic eruption produces more ozone-depleting chemicals (or was it greenhouse gases?) than a year’s worth of human activity does, has been widely questioned in the scientific community because the available data does not support the conclusion. And Limbaugh’s claim that North America has more land covered in forests now than it did when Columbus arrived in 1492 cannot be verified because no one bothered to count the trees that were here in 1492.



Limbaugh was did a gag about a Miss Ebonics beauty pageant. According to Limbaugh the pageant’s sponsors cancelled the even when they realized no one wanted to be Miss Idaho. If mocking the behavior of a particular race is not racism, what is it?
Miss Ebonics ? I have listen to rush for YEAS and I never heard of it Got any links ?
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:04 PM
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All this blabbering about AirAmerica leads me to an honest question about Rush Limbaugh.
I've listened off and on to Rush since the late 80's. I always considered him a talk show host, nothing more or less. I've disagreed with him over the years on a variety of subjects.
But I've always enjoyed his sense of humor and the way HE never takes himself too seriously.
I think he looks at things with a lot of common sense. His conservative roots always come through and he doesn't try to hide who he is, but his ideas are usually grounded in common sense, imo.
I guess I have several questions for any liberal/independents/dems that have ever really listened to him.
1) All excuses aside, AirAmerica has struggled for listeners since its inception while Rush steadily increased his audience. Why were the people so hungry for a Rush type talk show host? And if, as you people seem to believe, the majority of the country thinks like you, why hasn't AirAmerica been as successful?
2) Can one of you provide a verifiable LIE that Rush has spoken? Not something that doesn't jive with your ideology, but a verifiable lie?
3) Can you provide one verifiable instance of racism from Rush? I hear him saying the same to all people. Success is there if you work for it.
As a Liberal Democrat I can say I never listened to Air America. I believe people are hungry for a Rush type show because they are the ones who are whining the most about things. If the audience is there, the market will answer. Personally, I don't know why anyone would listen to any talk radio. Who wants to hear all that moaning and groaning.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:38 PM
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As a Liberal Democrat I can say I never listened to Air America. I believe people are hungry for a Rush type show because they are the ones who are whining the most about things. If the audience is there, the market will answer. Personally, I don't know why anyone would listen to any talk radio. Who wants to hear all that moaning and groaning.
Er...ah... have been to any liberal websites OR watched the news in the last six years ? Whining , lying , and spewing hatred does not count . Right ?
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:44 PM
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As a Liberal Democrat I can say I never listened to Air America. I believe people are hungry for a Rush type show because they are the ones who are whining the most about things. If the audience is there, the market will answer. Personally, I don't know why anyone would listen to any talk radio. Who wants to hear all that moaning and groaning.
I'm in the car alot travelling for my job and when I'm in the mood, I'll listen to Limbaugh. I think he's successful for a number of reasons:

1) He's the first. He was the first truly open conservative voice on the airwaves and arguably even television. He paved the way for people like Hannity, Savage, JBL, Glenn Beck, Rusty Humphreys and whoever the heck else is out there.

2) He can be very funny. Some of the skits he does are pretty good. While I think occassionally his arrogance gets in the way, I get the feeling off the mic he's probably a very decent person. I don't get the same impression of an Al Franken. I get the feeling he's an asshole.

3) He's honest. I think that when it comes to his social life he's as open as most. He's divorced at least twice, professess to neither have or want no children and lives his life on his own terms. He is one of the few conservative hosts who isn't a prude like Hannity is. I was listening when he first discussed his addiction and he seemed very sincere in wanting to get better. I hope he has continued his recovery and made strides. I found his honesty truly refreshing and very courageous considering that there are those who were actually happy to hear about his addiction and were even hoping he would overdose and die! Nice people them libs.

I don't agree with him about everything. Who agress with anyone about everything, anyway? However, if I'm stuck oin the car and son't feel like listening to tunes, I know that this guy will entertain me - whether I agree with the topic or not. That's the highest compliment I can pay the guy. He does his job.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:46 PM
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Er...ah... have been to any liberal websites OR watched the news in the last six years ? Whining , lying , and spewing hatred does not count . Right ?
My understanding is that conservative/right wing talk radio is a much larger market than liberal/left wing talk radio. As I said, those with the most complaints are whining (and if you insist on adding) lying and spewing hatred on Rush and other such forums. I often watch the news and also read!
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:49 PM
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I'm in the car alot travelling for my job and when I'm in the mood, I'll listen to Limbaugh. I think he's successful for a number of reasons:

1) He's the first. He was the first truly open conservative voice on the airwaves and arguably even television. He paved the way for people like Hannity, Savage, JBL, Glenn Beck, Rusty Humphreys and whoever the heck else is out there.

2) He can be very funny. Some of the skits he does are pretty good. While I think occassionally his arrogance gets in the way, I get the feeling off the mic he's probably a very decent person. I don't get the same impression of an Al Franken. I get the feeling he's an asshole.

3) He's honest. I think that when it comes to his social life he's as open as most. He's divorced at least twice, professess to neither have or want no children and lives his life on his own terms. He is one of the few conservative hosts who isn't a prude like Hannity is. I was listening when he first discussed his addiction and he seemed very sincere in wanting to get better. I hope he has continued his recovery and made strides. I found his honesty truly refreshing and very courageous considering that there are those who were actually happy to hear about his addiction and were even hoping he would overdose and die! Nice people them libs.

I don't agree with him about everything. Who agress with anyone about everything, anyway? However, if I'm stuck oin the car and son't feel like listening to tunes, I know that this guy will entertain me - whether I agree with the topic or not. That's the highest compliment I can pay the guy. He does his job.
Obviously a lot of people enjoy listening to him. I just do not see the attraction to any talk radio. I prefer the quiet I guess.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:13 AM
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The drug thing for you Liberrals that cannot decipher 1+1, was a sickness, and MOST drug habits are "hidden", same as the Alky hides a spare bottle!

Now many odf you sons & daughters of Flower Children, always wanted Drugs legalized, so don't lose sleep over Rush's problem!

He has the POWER to determine possible GOP candidates, he is FAR more brilliant than anything on the fucking Left, and Franken looks good with Clintons dick in his mouth!!
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