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05-24-2007, 08:09 AM
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who would support this?
Farmers:
1. Family farms may not be mortgaged or seized by creditors.
2. Family farms may not be sold.
3. Family farms must be inherited by the farmer’s son or the nearest male relative and the heir is responsible for providing a living for the deceased farmer’s surviving spouse and minor children.
4. The government determines what a farm will produce.
5. The government determines the prices at which a farmer may sell what he produces (the prices are automatically set above what the market would otherwise dictate so farmers have a certain amount of guaranteed income).
Business owners:
1. All corporations worth less than $500,000 must be sold to a larger corporation or closed.
2. No corporation worth less than $2.8 million may be established.
3. The government determines what you will produce, how much you will produce and the price at which you will sell your product.
4. No more than 6% of a company’s profits may be distributed as dividends. The remaining 94% must be either re-invested in the company or used to purchase government bonds (which the government is not obligated to ever pay back).
5. The government subsidizes things like factory construction and maintenance.
Labor:
1. Labor unions are illegal.
2. The government, at the direction of business owners, determines the wages and salaries of all employees.
3. Employees may not strike.
4. No employee may leave his employer without the employer’s permission.
5. No employer may fire an employee without the government’s permission.
6. Unemployed persons may be conscripted for public works projects.
7. An employee must pay anywhere from 15 to 35 per cent of his pay in taxes and charitable donations mandated by the government.
8. The government provides health insurance, unemployment insurance, disability insurance and a retirement pension to employees.
7. The government operates an organization that provides low-cost recreational and cultural activities- things like luxury cruise vacations for less than 2 weeks’ pay.
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05-24-2007, 08:27 AM
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WTF? I don't think any red blooded American would support that.
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05-24-2007, 08:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flaja
Farmers:
1. Family farms may not be mortgaged or seized by creditors.
2. Family farms may not be sold.
3. Family farms must be inherited by the farmer’s son or the nearest male relative and the heir is responsible for providing a living for the deceased farmer’s surviving spouse and minor children.
4. The government determines what a farm will produce.
5. The government determines the prices at which a farmer may sell what he produces (the prices are automatically set above what the market would otherwise dictate so farmers have a certain amount of guaranteed income).
Business owners:
1. All corporations worth less than $500,000 must be sold to a larger corporation or closed.
2. No corporation worth less than $2.8 million may be established.
3. The government determines what you will produce, how much you will produce and the price at which you will sell your product.
4. No more than 6% of a company’s profits may be distributed as dividends. The remaining 94% must be either re-invested in the company or used to purchase government bonds (which the government is not obligated to ever pay back).
5. The government subsidizes things like factory construction and maintenance.
Labor:
1. Labor unions are illegal.
2. The government, at the direction of business owners, determines the wages and salaries of all employees.
3. Employees may not strike.
4. No employee may leave his employer without the employer’s permission.
5. No employer may fire an employee without the government’s permission.
6. Unemployed persons may be conscripted for public works projects.
7. An employee must pay anywhere from 15 to 35 per cent of his pay in taxes and charitable donations mandated by the government.
8. The government provides health insurance, unemployment insurance, disability insurance and a retirement pension to employees.
7. The government operates an organization that provides low-cost recreational and cultural activities- things like luxury cruise vacations for less than 2 weeks’ pay.
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Not in the America that I love.
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05-24-2007, 09:09 AM
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05-24-2007, 10:11 AM
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No, would not support it, but I have one question: WHAT FAMILY FARMS?
Most of them have already been incorporated and/or sold to the Saudis.
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05-24-2007, 10:16 AM
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well imho i see that the goverment allready excersises its hand on the farming industry by paying farmers not to farm...which i feel is purely evil...but anyways...
i also see a trend in all companies under500,000 being bought out...isn't this one of the reasons for globalization?
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05-29-2007, 08:48 AM
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I posted this scenario hoping to determine how much support it would have among this board’s leftists. But, no leftist has bothered to acknowledge the thread. I will post this again under another title in hopes that I will attract the Left’s attention.
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05-29-2007, 06:27 PM
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Sounds sort of like that paradise in South America: Venezuela....
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05-29-2007, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flaja
I posted this scenario hoping to determine how much support it would have among this board’s leftists. But, no leftist has bothered to acknowledge the thread. I will post this again under another title in hopes that I will attract the Left’s attention.
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Sounds a lot like the old Soviet Union. There's a few clues in there as to why they collapsed under the Welfare State... 
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05-29-2007, 08:02 PM
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Straight out of Das Kapital by Karl Marx. Liberals won't respond. They don't have a clue as to what color the sky is on their planet, so how could they possibly understand communism.
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