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05-27-2007, 03:06 PM
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Never in the history of the world has a steel building collapsed from fire, until 9/11
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And this applies to this thread because . . . why?
Why don't you actually try making an argument here. Give us a theory and take a stand.
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05-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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Never in the history of the world has a steel building collapsed from fire, until 9/11
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ANOTHER structural engineer ?
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05-27-2007, 03:18 PM
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I'm just waiting for the AWE Hillbillies.
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Hey Petey , fuck you . I don't appreciate that , especially since I actually take time to at least consider the things you post . If you going to say things like that you stick your pogostick up your ass and bounce on it ! 
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05-27-2007, 03:26 PM
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Ron Paul has provided the best definition of neoconservatism that I have seen and, of course, Murdoch hates him for it. Aside from that, the smug, blondie shithead from Fox stated that Paul said the U.S. had "a hand" in 9/11, which is not even close to what Paul said. Fox right now is scrambling for all the "outrage" it can muster. They should have Lynn Cheney on sometime soon.
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05-27-2007, 03:30 PM
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Giuiliani is a lying sac-o-shit. Other than that, I can't see why he wants to claim 9/11 as his own. 9/11 was a disaster, wasn't it? It's like Cap'n Smith saying "the Titanic was MY boat".
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05-27-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
Giuiliani is a lying sac-o-shit. Other than that, I can't see why he wants to claim 9/11 as his own. 9/11 was a disaster, wasn't it? It's like Cap'n Smith saying "the Titanic was MY boat".
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He is.
The way he took what Ron Paul said and spun it to suit himself was an indication of how he will be a liar and a spin doctor on par with the current administration.
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05-27-2007, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Semantics
He is.
The way he took what Ron Paul said and spun it to suit himself was an indication of how he will be a liar and a spin doctor on par with the current administration.
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Why don't you explain how Giuliani spun anything Paul said?
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05-27-2007, 03:58 PM
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Why don't you explain how Giuliani spun anything Paul said?
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Ron Paul was speaking of the US's interventionist policies in the Middle East and how they contributed to the anti-US sentiment and movement- including 9/11.
Anyone who doesn't believe this to be true has a very limited view of history.
McCain, in typical wishy washy McCain style, once again made himself look like a fool by agreeing with Giuliani- "I thought Mayor Giuliani's intercession there was appropriate and frankly very, very excellent. I really appreciated it because we should never believe that we brought on this conflict."
Typical of a Republican to shrug off any accountability for anything- better off to just ignore it so it will happen again. 
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05-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Semantics
Ron Paul was speaking of the US's interventionist policies in the Middle East and how they contributed to the anti-US sentiment and movement- including 9/11.
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So? Giuliani didn't change anything that Paul said. Paul was speaking of how bombing Iraq for ten years caused 9/11, Giuliani was just basically saying he didn't agree with it. Where is the spin? Or do you just say that anything you don't agree with is spin? Do you know what spin is or is it just a default argument?
Even in your above post you just show how McCain doesn't agree with Paul, not how he is spinning anything.
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05-27-2007, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SydneySteel
That may be true, but how many of them had commercial airliners crashed into them loaded with jet fuel? If making comparisons, then make comparisons. You'd have to recreate it to do so, wouldn't you? Keep thinking like you're thinking and the recreation will happen.
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You do know that the two towers were built to withstand a plane crash right? And that they only burned for an hour and half before falling. A steel building in Madrid, Spain burnt for 20 hours and did not fall. Explain that please.
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