Um, guys?
I think what George was trying to get across is not so much reinstating the draft, as having these war mongerers feel the grief and loss inevitably associated with war. If Rush Limbaugh had to cut down on the Oxys, or if the Bush daughters took some time off their underage drinking or if Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter's stupid ass had to look into a crowd and try to figure out who just shot their friend or had to pick up the mangled remains of a fellow soldier who was taken out by an IED, foreign policy might not be what it is today.
Maybe having someone who understands the complexities and ramifications of war. Colin Powell was a good choice, but nobody wanted to listen to him, remember?
Also, Rdnor and Huffdawg thank you for defending this country and perpetuating the freedoms that all of us enjoy. Having said that, I don't think that whether or not these people served should deprive them of an opinion. Do you?
As for my armed service record or lack thereof, I leave you to guess.

But don't let my name throw you....

__________________
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Benjamin Franklin
"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Albert Einstein

Ok , I will go ahead and do it ... Man I have already been there and back . Wounded twice in combat , and would go TODAY if health problems had not stopped me . I tried . I am not dead by a long shot !

__________________
"If that's what it takes to keep the peace , then thank God for the bomb" Ozzy Osbourne Sat Cong !

i honor you for your bravery. it is not an easy thing to do. but your still not dead. being dead is not a consequence i want for doing anything

__________________
the more i see the less i know.
---Red Hot Chili Peppers

Fuck Martha Stewart. Martha's polishing the brass on the Titanic.
---Tyler Durden

True , some people are not cut out for it . Most likely better if you did not go . Just watch how you say it . An attitude like that is not going to make it with anyone .

__________________
"If that's what it takes to keep the peace , then thank God for the bomb" Ozzy Osbourne Sat Cong !

i simply state my thought. no problem. people should be more open minded. if one says fuck homosexuals or africans thats okay thats ur belief i cant change that. that doesnt mean i cant satire them and make them feel like an idiot.

__________________
the more i see the less i know.
---Red Hot Chili Peppers

Fuck Martha Stewart. Martha's polishing the brass on the Titanic.
---Tyler Durden

Funny, I don't remember people being all in a huff when our numbers began to drop under the previous administration....

I don't hear calls for us to come home from:

Kosovo
South Korea
Great Britain (How long has WWII been over and done with??)
Germany (see the above)
Spain (look up....)
Italy (guess what, look up again....)
Honduras
Japan
Iceland
Turkey
Greece
Plus many other little assignments that most americans don't know about....

__________________
"A committee is a group of people who individually can do nothing but together can decide that nothing can be done."
Fred Allen

"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
George Bernard Shaw

"Politics is the art of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable."
John Galbraith

gd, I think you already know the answer to this on several of these countries. S. Korea, GB, Germany, Italy, Japan, Turkey and Greece have much to do with strategic force placement than babysitting. Same with Iraq and our 14 "permanent" bases we are still building. We new our time in Saudi Arabia was limited, and other than Turkey, which was also being crappy about how we could use our assets from that country, we would soon have no foothold in the middle east.

No longer in a cold war, there really needs to be a shifting of our troop placements around the globe for (hopefully) deterrents to new aggression from a number of sources. Part of that posturing is having forces in the middle east. Why? Because of the oil. In every major conflict, all sides rushed to northern Africa and the middle east to secure the oil reserves for their respective mechanized war machines.

On this point I agree with the PNAC, I just disagree heavily with their method they used to do it. That's pretty much were my agreement with that organization ends.

As for calls to come home, it just might have been different for this war too if we had won decisively early on and were now in a peace keeping/rebuilding only mode.

__________________
S.O.S. ------ United We Stand, Divided We Fall

Some of the military people on this forum say they do not want a draft. They want people who want to be there. I personally think a draft is loss of freedom. I could not morally be part of the Iraq war. I could not perform an abortion . There are just somethings I could not do.

I would be able to defend our country wiht an imminent attack or as a peacekeeping mission like Afghanistan.

Anyway I think george is joking. Although the Bush twins are sure living it up wearing designer clotheres and partying till all hours in NYC. I think they are about 23. That looks bad.

Good point about Ann Coulter. She supports this invasion why does she not serve. Take away the 400$ hair color every 2 weeks and the designer clothes and makeup artist. Visualize just the face minus the makeup and haircolor in combat clothes and it might scare the insurgents.

Sorry everyone these comments are pretty lame but there is an element of message there.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO

__________________
S.O.S. ------ United We Stand, Divided We Fall

I did my 365 in Viet Nam in '69. Conscription is fine with me if it brings back fragging, big time!