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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraulein Hilda View Post
    You mean we'll have 10 percent unemployment, but clean energy?
    If this were law, we would surpass 50% unemployment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    So Pelosi has some ovaries to get clean energy & security passed using the whip. Good for her! I am glad she is geting coverage of how she does her job, and for once, an asset to the Democrat Party.
    I see you're still the freedom-hating totalitarian. This bill is nothing more than a huge tax on the American people and a gateway to controlling every aspect of everyone's energy usage. It will crush our already struggling economy and for years to come. And for what? In the name of a hoax.

    Implementing a cap-and-trade program to cut emissions by 70 percent creates a transfer within the United States that is equivalent to taxes on the order of $250 billion to $300 billion per year, just for the years 2012 to 2030. The combined transfer is about $5 trillion in just the first 20 years. This takes the purchasing power from the households and turns it over to the federal government or to whomever the government assigns the rights to the permits for emissions (allowances). This would be one of the largest taxes in the economy--almost twice as large as the highway use taxes.

    Because the transfer, in this case, is similar in magnitude to the lost GDP, we need to be clear on the distinction. A cap-and-trade program with an emissions reduction profile similar to that of last year's Lieberman-Warner bill, will cause an aggregate $5 trillion of transfers after it destroys $4.8 trillion of national income (GDP).

    In colloquial terms, the pie gets smaller by nearly $5 trillion and then a $5 trillion piece is cut out and redistributed.


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    Here are the smiling mugs of the 8 Republicans who gave America the finger.

    "I want people to take thought about their condition and to recognize that the maintenance of a free society is a very difficult and complicated thing and it requires a self-denying ordinance of the most extreme kind. It requires a willingness to put up with temporary evil on the basis of the subtle and sophisticated understanding that if you step in to do something about them, you not only may make them worse, but you will spread your tentacle and get bad results elsewhere."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraulein Hilda View Post
    You mean we'll have 10 percent unemployment, but clean energy?
    I doubt there will be any affect on unemployment, but what if there is?
    GIVE A CON A FISH, HE FUCKS IT, HE GUTS IT, HE COOKS IT, HE EATS IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocat View Post
    You are a moron shitzo/fedup.
    And you are a cocksucker Rocunt


    nazi botox pelosi is a disgrace to the speakers office, womanhood, california, and humanity in general. She will go down in history as the most stupid, most incompetent speaker ever. If only she was black, then you guys could put her on the throne next to obozo. obozo and pelozo the chief clowns of the usa.
    You made the accusations Rocunt, back them up or be called a liar at AWE (I realize that as a liar, that is a step-up from sucking liberal cocks.)

    Why do replugs hate women? Answer: Because they are closet perverts.
    GIVE A CON A FISH, HE FUCKS IT, HE GUTS IT, HE COOKS IT, HE EATS IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proletariat101 View Post
    I see you're still the freedom-hating totalitarian. This bill is nothing more than a huge tax on the American people and a gateway to controlling every aspect of everyone's energy usage. It will crush our already struggling economy and for years to come. And for what? In the name of a hoax.
    Freedom hating is it? LMAO!! I think you have your BS on the wrong thread. The topic is " Pelosi whipping, cajoling, begging and browbeating undecided Democrats." I said she did a good job for change and should be commended for this one action. Apparently she scared the bejeezzous out of a few replugs as well. Does this mean Ovaries are stronger than balls?
    GIVE A CON A FISH, HE FUCKS IT, HE GUTS IT, HE COOKS IT, HE EATS IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    I doubt there will be any affect on unemployment, but what if there is?
    You truely are brain dead arent you.......

    ....don't feel bad.....Obama thought Unemployment wouldnt go above 8%....so your in (D)umb company....
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    Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day

    Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish

    "We can't drill our way out"...but Im betting your car doesnt run on HOPE or Caribou poop either.

    "Barack Obama is not ready to be president"--Joe Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Freedom hating is it?
    Yes, that's right. It is an appropriate and descriptive phrase for the statist and your support for this bill confirms you are one of them.
    Last edited by proletariat101; 07-06-2009 at 01:55 PM.
    "I want people to take thought about their condition and to recognize that the maintenance of a free society is a very difficult and complicated thing and it requires a self-denying ordinance of the most extreme kind. It requires a willingness to put up with temporary evil on the basis of the subtle and sophisticated understanding that if you step in to do something about them, you not only may make them worse, but you will spread your tentacle and get bad results elsewhere."
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    Quote Originally Posted by FedUpAmerican View Post
    No problem cunt.

    I think everyone should see your nonsense.

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