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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Nice text dump, but there's no showing that any of the interrogation techniques used were torture. That the lib media, the gene-missing blogosphere, and the obamabots call it that doesn't constitute proof.
    You are the "koolaid" drinker you like to label other folks with.

    You have been fooled, hoodwinked and used up by the Bush Administration.

    Get out from under them.

    Really this isn't about Obama or politics.
    It's about THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TORTURING PEOPLE.

    I will not provide you all the links I have posted here at AWE about this.

    1. Read the ICRC report

    2. Read the Conventions Against Torture
    *that the U.S. signed and ratified

    3. Read the links I just provided.

    4. Compare them together and see what ya' come up with.

    5. You and other Bush fools are calling for the release of other documents to show how effective this was.

    HELL, Cheney is on tv every other day calling for it.

    Cheney touts how THIS WORKED.

    THEY ARE ADMITTING THEY TORTURED PEOPLE.

    ARE YOU KINDA LIKE GETTING IT?
    MAYBE A LITTLE BIT???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get Real View Post
    You are the "koolaid" drinker you like to label other folks with.

    You have been fooled, hoodwinked and used up by the Bush Administration.

    Get out from under them.

    Really this isn't about Obama or politics.
    It's about THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TORTURING PEOPLE.

    I will not provide you all the links I have posted here at AWE about this.

    1. Read the ICRC report

    2. Read the Conventions Against Torture
    *that the U.S. signed and ratified

    3. Read the links I just provided.

    4. Compare them together and see what ya' come up with.

    5. You and other Bush fools are calling for the release of other documents to show how effective this was.

    HELL, Cheney is on tv every other day calling for it.

    Cheney touts how THIS WORKED.

    THEY ARE ADMITTING THEY TORTURED PEOPLE.

    ARE YOU KINDA LIKE GETTING IT?
    MAYBE A LITTLE BIT???
    Come up with A SINGLE SHRED OF PROOF that any of the interrogation techniques used were torture. Making them listen to 50 cent, I'll concede, but other than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Nice text dump, but there's no showing that any of the interrogation techniques used were torture.
    Homicide is a pretty good sign. And we have 27 confirmed deaths from US Military doctors who autopsied the bodies. You really need to keep up Ricky.


    That the lib media, the gene-missing blogosphere, and the obamabots call it that doesn't constitute proof.
    Go kiss a corpse Ricky.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Come up with A SINGLE SHRED OF PROOF that any of the interrogation techniques used were torture. Making them listen to 50 cent, I'll concede, but other than that.
    ALREADY BEEN DONE.
    YOU WON'T ACCEPT IT FOR TWO REASONS

    1. YOUR HEAD IS TOO FAR UP TOO MANY ASSES-----THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION & FOX NEWS.............................................. ...........

    DAMN!!! THAT'S A LOTTA ASSHOLES CUTTING OFF THE OXYGEN TO YOUR BRAIN.

    2. I AM RIGHT AND THAT BUGS THE FUCK OUTTA YA'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get Real View Post
    ALREADY BEEN DONE.
    YOU WON'T ACCEPT IT FOR TWO REASONS

    1. YOUR HEAD IS TOO FAR UP TOO MANY ASSES-----THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION & FOX NEWS.............................................. ...........

    DAMN!!! THAT'S A LOTTA ASSHOLES CUTTING OFF THE OXYGEN TO YOUR BRAIN.

    2. I AM RIGHT AND THAT BUGS THE FUCK OUTTA YA'
    You aint done nuthin, sistuh. You went to the limit of your "affirmative action" brain, and cut and pasted an irrelevent text dump. Won't cut it, sugah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    You aint done nuthin, sistuh. You went to the limit of your "affirmative action" brain, and cut and pasted an irrelevent text dump. Won't cut it, sugah.
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    WHY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN??
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    3.TO BUSY AND 911 WITH 3,000 MURDERED
    4.DRILL DRILL DRILL & OIL ON THE GULF COAST BEACHES
    5.DRILL DRILL DRILL & OIL ON THE PACIFIC COAST BEACHES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    You aint done nuthin, sistuh. You went to the limit of your "affirmative action" brain, and cut and pasted an irrelevent text dump. Won't cut it, sugah.
    Being the ASS that you are don't change the FACTS little ricky.

    Why should I provide you anything further?
    When I do you will do as you have in the past, deny, spin, rewrite and when all else fails (like you)
    you will babble incoherently in ebonics.

    I, GET REAL. KICK YOUR ASS EVERY TIME YOU COME UP AGAINST ME.



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    STOP FUCKING TRYING.

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    I asked in the above comment to you, Why should I provide anything further? Here is the answer from me to you............................................... ..........................



    Because I like smashing your ASS!!!!





    MY "ANYTHING FURTHER" FROM A POST I MADE WEEKS AGO.




    BITCH SLAP TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    HERE IS SOME "SHREDS OF PROOF"



    1.3. Other Methods of Ill-treatment 1.3.1. Suffocation by water 1.3.2. Prolonged stress standing 1.3.3. Beatings by use of a collar 1. 3 + Beating and kicking (from the ICRC report) http://www.nybooks.com/icrc-report.pdf


    Any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession,....
    (from the CAT definition of torture)

    United Nations Convention Against Torture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Just to show the relation to what Cheney said and what the CAT says



    Cheney was key in clearing CIA interrogation tactics


    Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that he was directly involved in approving severe interrogation methods used by the CIA, and that the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba should remain open indefinitely.

    Cheney's remarks on Guantanamo appear to put him at odds with President Bush, who has expressed a desire to close the prison, although the decision is expected to be left to the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama.

    Cheney's comments also mark the first time that he has acknowledged playing a central role in clearing the CIA's use of an array of controversial interrogation tactics, including a simulated drowning method known as "waterboarding."

    "I was aware of the program, certainly, and involved in helping get the process cleared," Cheney said in an interview on ABC News.

    Asked whether he still believes it was appropriate to use the waterboarding method on terrorism suspects, Cheney said: "I do."

    Cheney was key in clearing CIA interrogation tactics - Los Angeles Times


    Cheney also said this to Larry King

    CHENEY: I do. I think those programs were absolutely essential to the success we enjoyed of being able to collect the intelligence that let us defeat all further attempts to launch attacks against the United States since 9/11.

    Transcript: DICK Cheney Interview with CNN’s John King - Cheney Says Obama Choices Create Risk : Clips & Comment

    Compare what Cheney has admitted to, to what CAT says, take note of the highlighted portions of both


    Ban on torture and cruel and degrading treatment

    Article 2 of the convention prohibits torture, and requires parties to take effective measures to prevent it in any territory under its jurisdiction. This prohibition is absolute and non-derogable. "No exceptional circumstances whatsoever"[5] may be invoked to justify torture, including war, threat of war, internal political instability, public emergency, terrorist acts, violent crime, or any form of armed conflict.[6] Torture cannot be justified as a means to protect public safety or prevent emergencies.[6] Neither can it be justified by orders from superior officers or public officials.[7] The prohibition on torture applies to all territories under a party's effective jurisdiction, and protects all people under its effective control, regardless of citizenship or how that control is exercised.[6] Since the Conventions entry into force, this absolute prohibition has become accepted as a principle of customary international law.[6]

    Because it is often difficult to distinguish between cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment and torture, the Committee regards Article 16's prohibition of such treatment as similarly absolute and non-derogable.[6]

    The other articles of part I lay out specific obligations intended to implement this absolute prohibition by preventing, investigating and punishing acts of torture.



    Add this to the vile mix:::


    Rice OK'd CIA waterboard request as Bush adviser


    United Nations Convention Against Torture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://www.nybooks.com/icrc-report.pdf



    I AM GOING GET SOME REST NOW. EDUCATING YOUR BITCH ASS IS TEDIOUS BUT SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH FUCKING FUN.

    BYE BITCH!!!!
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    Rick? Rick?...........hmm................rick?.........n o,.......hmmmm, guess ricky got his ass beat so bad here he run off for a conservative hugging station to cry some tears. Good work Grrrrl!!!!!!
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    WHY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN??
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    3.TO BUSY AND 911 WITH 3,000 MURDERED
    4.DRILL DRILL DRILL & OIL ON THE GULF COAST BEACHES
    5.DRILL DRILL DRILL & OIL ON THE PACIFIC COAST BEACHES

    DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER REPUBLICAN DISASTER?





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    Last edited by shintao; 04-23-2009 at 04:23 AM.
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    WHY WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN??
    1.COLLAPSED AMERICAN ECON0MY WORSE SINCE GREAT DEPRESSION
    2.NO WMDS & THOUSANDS DIE IN IRAQ
    3.TO BUSY AND 911 WITH 3,000 MURDERED
    4.DRILL DRILL DRILL & OIL ON THE GULF COAST BEACHES
    5.DRILL DRILL DRILL & OIL ON THE PACIFIC COAST BEACHES

    DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER REPUBLICAN DISASTER?





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