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    This is f*cking unbelieveable. Why do we have to live under some new f*cking gun law because some inner city child got gunned down? That's why I don't do drugs or live in the ghetto. The person committed the crime not the gun. Go after the thugs that are responsible not America. What is wrong with the lib brain? This story isn't even being covered by the msm.


    American Thinker Blog: More Gun Control Introduced in Congress

    Who is Blair Holt? AxXiom for Liberty

    Gregory Young
    The liberals are at it again. In a new bill introduced the first day of present session of Congress, and with zero coverage from the MSM, H.R. 45 (Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009) targets all gun owners in the U.S.A.

    This nefarious bill seeks to strip us all of our Constitutional Rights to possess and bear firearms of any distinction. It requires, within the first two years, that all new guns be registered. The bill goes retroactive after two years. Meaning that two years after the passage of the bill, ALL FIREARMS in a citizen’s possession must be registered, not just those purchased after the bill passes, and this apparently applies to antique firearms as well.

    Every five years the firearm owner must go through a complete renewal process for each weapon owned. Failure to comply carries stiff penalties including confiscation of the firearms and jail time (penalties as high as ten years imprisonment in some cases). The bill also authorizes government searches without warrant, the creation of a federal bureaucracy to monitor firearm possession, etc.

    The following is a summary of the bill as provided by the Congressional Research Service. If you read the whole bill, you'll find it will effectively preclude the ownership of any firearms by law-abiding people unless directly licensed by the Attorney General :

    1/6/2009--Introduced. Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

    Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

    Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act;
    (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; (5)
    keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

    Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act. Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer. Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.

    Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill, slap it down hard.

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    So the Libs are so against invasion of privacy, and searches without warrants, but...


    "The bill also authorizes government searches without warrant, the creation of a federal bureaucracy to monitor firearm possession, etc."
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    Check this story. There is no way anyone is going to take my guns rights away with this going on. no no no....

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    Mexican-Central America Terrorist are here among us and have killed more Americans than 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primerib View Post
    This is f*cking unbelieveable. Why do we have to live under some new f*cking gun law because some inner city child got gunned down? That's why I don't do drugs or live in the ghetto. The person committed the crime not the gun. Go after the thugs that are responsible not America. What is wrong with the lib brain? This story isn't even being covered by the msm.


    American Thinker Blog: More Gun Control Introduced in Congress

    Who is Blair Holt? AxXiom for Liberty

    Gregory Young
    The liberals are at it again. In a new bill introduced the first day of present session of Congress, and with zero coverage from the MSM, H.R. 45 (Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009) targets all gun owners in the U.S.A.

    This nefarious bill seeks to strip us all of our Constitutional Rights to possess and bear firearms of any distinction. It requires, within the first two years, that all new guns be registered. The bill goes retroactive after two years. Meaning that two years after the passage of the bill, ALL FIREARMS in a citizen’s possession must be registered, not just those purchased after the bill passes, and this apparently applies to antique firearms as well.

    Every five years the firearm owner must go through a complete renewal process for each weapon owned. Failure to comply carries stiff penalties including confiscation of the firearms and jail time (penalties as high as ten years imprisonment in some cases). The bill also authorizes government searches without warrant, the creation of a federal bureaucracy to monitor firearm possession, etc.

    The following is a summary of the bill as provided by the Congressional Research Service. If you read the whole bill, you'll find it will effectively preclude the ownership of any firearms by law-abiding people unless directly licensed by the Attorney General :

    1/6/2009--Introduced. Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

    Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

    Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act;
    (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; (5)
    keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

    Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act. Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer. Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.

    Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill, slap it down hard.
    Another half truth which equals complete BULLSHIT by the Flip-Jobs on the Radical Right. Has anyone even read this bill? I have. The search is actually an inspection and has nothing to do with warrant-less searches. See the bold below.

    SEC. 402. REGULATIONS.

    (a) In General- The Attorney General shall issue regulations governing the licensing of possessors of qualifying firearms and the recorded sale of qualifying firearms, consistent with this Act and the amendments made by this Act, as the Attorney General determines to be reasonably necessary to reduce or prevent deaths or injuries resulting from qualifying firearms, and to assist law enforcement in the apprehension of owners or users of qualifying firearms used in criminal activity.

    (b) Maximum Interval Between Issuance of Proposed and Final Regulation- Not later than 120 days after the date on which the Attorney General issues a proposed regulation under subsection (a) with respect to a matter, the Attorney General shall issue a final regulation with respect to the matter.

    SEC. 403. INSPECTIONS.

    In order to ascertain compliance with this Act, the amendments made by this Act, and the regulations and orders issued under this Act, the Attorney General may, during regular business hours, enter any place in which firearms or firearm products are manufactured, stored, or held, for distribution in commerce, and inspect those areas where the products are so manufactured, stored, or held.

    SEC. 404. ORDERS.

    The Attorney General may issue an order prohibiting the sale or transfer of any firearm that the Attorney General finds has been transferred or distributed in violation of this Act, an amendment made by this Act, or a regulation issued under this Act.

    SEC. 405. INJUNCTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

    The Attorney General may bring an action to restrain any violation of this Act or an amendment made by this Act in the district court of the United States for any district in which the violation has occurred, or in which the defendant is found or transacts business.

    TITLE V--FIREARM INJURY INFORMATION AND RESEARCH

    SEC. 501. DUTIES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

    (a) In General- The Attorney General shall--

    (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse to collect, investigate, analyze, and disseminate data and information relating to the causes and prevention of death and injury associated with firearms;

    (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and

    (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures for each licensed manufacturer.

    (b) Availability of Information- Periodically, but not less frequently than annually, the Attorney General shall report to the Congress and make available to the public a report on the activities of the Attorney General under subsection (a).

    TITLE VI--EFFECT ON STATE LAW

    SEC. 601. EFFECT ON STATE LAW.

    (a) In General- This Act and the amendments made by this Act may not be construed to preempt any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision of that State, or prevent a State or political subdivision of that State from enacting any provision of law regulating or prohibiting conduct with respect to firearms, except to the extent that the provision of law is inconsistent with any provision of this Act or an amendment made by this Act, and then only to the extent of the inconsistency.

    (b) Rule of Interpretation- A provision of State law is not inconsistent with this Act or an amendment made by this Act if the provision imposes a regulation or prohibition of greater scope or a penalty of greater severity than a corresponding prohibition or penalty imposed by this Act or an amendment made by this Act.

    SEC. 602. CERTIFICATION OF STATE FIREARM LICENSING SYSTEMS AND STATE FIREARM RECORD OF SALE SYSTEMS.

    Upon a written request of the chief executive officer of a State, the Attorney General may certify--

    (1) a firearm licensing system established by a State, if State law requires the system to satisfy the requirements applicable to the Federal firearm licensing system established under title I; or

    (2) a firearm record of sale system established by a State, if State law requires the head of the State agency that administers the system to submit to the Federal firearm record of sale system established under section 202(b) a copy of each report submitted to the head of the agency under section 202(a), within 7 days after receipt of the report.

    TITLE VII--RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER LAW

    SEC. 701. SUBORDINATION TO ARMS EXPORT CONTROL ACT.

    In the event of any conflict between any provision of this Act or an amendment made by this Act, and any provision of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2751), the provision of the Arms Export Control Act shall control.

    TITLE VIII--INAPPLICABILITY

    SEC. 801. INAPPLICABILITY TO GOVERNMENTAL AUTHORITIES.

    This Act and the amendments made by this Act shall not apply to any department or agency of the United States, of a State, or of a political subdivision of a State, or to any official conduct of any officer or employee of such a department or agency.

    TITLE IX--EFFECTIVE DATE

    SEC. 901. EFFECTIVE DATE OF AMENDMENTS.

    The amendments made by this Act shall take effect 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act.
    {Here's the link, but I believe U have to do a search for H.R.45.} Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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    I think I might have come up with a real money making idea. Print up standard paper sillouette targets with prominent liberal's faces. This idea free to anyone who wants it.

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    Just another stupid bill to try to infringe on the rights of "real" Americans.

    My gun is a license to carry a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcatsmoosh View Post
    I think I might have come up with a real money making idea. Print up standard paper sillouette targets with prominent liberal's faces. This idea free to anyone who wants it.
    I hear ya. Exposing lies and revealing truth can be a motherfucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HogginIT View Post
    Just another stupid bill to try to infringe on the rights of "real" Americans.

    My gun is a license to carry a gun.
    I'm not for taking away guns and yet I don't see anything wrong with this Bill. Then again, I actually read it.
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