Clinton steps all over the constitution

Dom1 · #**261** (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

I don't know if you noticed, but the original topic of this thread was killed in one post by me. The jackasses that were on that band wagon jumped off as it was going over the cliff and left the argument on the wagon. Having utterly lost that debate, Dom starts his micro-debate and now there are several issues being debated on this defacto free-for-all thread.

Ya, you guys are the shit. I blew a hole the size of Texas in the original argument and now your off to sleazier tactics. And you think I'm the slippery prevaricator? Maybe you should take a step away from the computer screen and look in the mirror once in a while.

Not only did I "utterly" lose the debate (that is why I must have started another debate - excpet for the fact that Okham later admits he DID in fact bring th etopic up), I, along with others, "think I am the shit." You must be including me in that analysis since I am referred to by name.

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

It really doesn't change the fact that you are missing some key points that anyone truly familiar with allodial title would understand easily. Again, this is an extremely complicated topic and can't be resolved here in any quick fashion. But suffice it to say that if allodial title doesn't exist in modern America, then you do NOT truly own your land. You can't have it both ways.

It also doesn't change the fact that property law was the big dog in the beginning of this country due to it's importance on who had suffrage. Again, very complicated, and if you haven't spent the time to get neck deep in the subject, you will continue to spit out conjecture and half truths, which lead to false assumptions. I did not bring this up to debate it, just to get those with an eye to learning to look a little deeper at the subject. I bet Petey had, and Sam, and several others.

But my original statement stands, you have not disproved it. You don't own half of what you think you do. In fact you've bolstered my position.

Just had to include this as well. In the first paragraph you say that allodial title does not exist in modern America and it means we do not truly own our land (I am not even going to call you to task on the house argument that you had at this time). Yet, in your initial post you indicated that a person in the US who owns truly owns the land would be someone we would not likely know. Seems, you are now saying that nobody truly owns the land since there is not truly allodial titles. Which is it? Are their people who own the land or not?

I bet Petey and Sam haven't looked into it and I bet they would not say that the legal definition of a certificate of title does not mean ownership. If they had looked into that then they would know what it means. At least you are now saying that YOU brought it up, rather than before when it was I who did. By the way, when you start calling people stupid while bringing up your points then expect a response.

You know what pisses people off? It is when you say things like "pay attention now" or when you talk down to people and imply or flat out say they are stupid. Especially when it has been shown that you have been wrong.

I have not bolstered your position and neither have you.

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Oh? You wanna play by standard debating rules? I have had many say they would like to have a formal debate with me, but none have successfully adhered to the agreed upon rules. Pick a time and topic and I'll be happy to set aside an hour or two to do just that. Of course, I'll have to check my schedule, but I'm sure we can find some common time. In fact, I'll even let you choose which debating standards we should use.

Again, I did not say you were a part of that, but simply that you chimed in after that argument was done. I'll grant you that you were smart enough to stay out of the initial debate as that dog just wasn't gonna hunt. But I never said you were in that debate. Show me a specific passage that addresses you by name within the context of that initial debate. And do the readers a service and include the whole paragraph for the sake of context.

Gotta run, I'll catch up tonight

I showed where you called me by name. I also showed the whole paragraph and the following one where it was implied I was in that analysis also.

As far as any debating rules . . . it is pointless to go by any rules in which forum members are the judge as because of political persuaion some will automatically go for me and some will automatically go for you. You even have your own personal fan club. How about next time we find something to debate it will be just you and I and we will respond to nobody else. We don't even need a common time. You make a post and I make a post. It can even be a series of posts within the same argument, either way, it doesn't matter to me. I think you are highly overated. I have debated better . . . even on this forum.

Dom1 · #**262** (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 02:24 PM

Hey Okham, I have to officiate a couple of games the next two nights so I will have little time, but should have plenty of time should we find an agreeable topic this weekend. I'll 'T' someone up tonight just for you.

StormanNorman · #**263** (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Oh? You wanna play by standard debating rules? I have had many say they would like to have a formal debate with me, but none have successfully adhered to the agreed upon rules. Pick a time and topic and I'll be happy to set aside an hour or two to do just that. Of course, I'll have to check my schedule, but I'm sure we can find some common time. In fact, I'll even let you choose which debating standards we should use.

Again, I did not say you were a part of that, but simply that you chimed in after that argument was done. I'll grant you that you were smart enough to stay out of the initial debate as that dog just wasn't gonna hunt. But I never said you were in that debate. Show me a specific passage that addresses you by name within the context of that initial debate. And do the readers a service and include the whole paragraph for the sake of context.

Gotta run, I'll catch up tonight

Are you guys going to debate some more about allodial titles??? Ohhhhh, make sure someone saves me a front row seat for that hum dinger!!

monkeyinthemiddle · #**264** (**permalink**) 01-06-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Hey Okham, I have to officiate a couple of games the next two nights so I will have little time, but should have plenty of time should we find an agreeable topic this weekend. I'll 'T' someone up tonight just for you.

Here's where he's up for the challenge and then disappears.

monkeyinthemiddle · #**265** (**permalink**) 01-06-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Just curious, do you ever add anything to the debate, or are you just an opportunistic negative commentator? Do you have anything to say about the subject at hand, or are you just content to get chuffed by calling out your insipid GOTCHA mantra.

Ha..I always add to the debate, you know better dahling.
I also point out and beeline in on blantant prevaricating and, yes, it is a personal tic of mine.
I believe I offered intellect to this thread while I made calls on your smarmy, equivocal replies.
Now I realize this makes you uncomfortable and irritated, but hey, its your own fault.

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

By the way, it ain't you that gets 'em, Dom is the principle debater here, you are little more than a sidekick. That annoying little character who steps out from behind the main characters once in a while to point fingers, but never invests their own *snork* intellect into the debate.

UGH you got me okahm, I admit it, I know I annoy you.

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

I don't know if you noticed, but the original topic of this thread was killed in one post by me. The jackasses that were on that band wagon jumped off as it was going over the cliff and left the argument on the wagon. Having utterly lost that debate, Dom starts his micro-debate and now there are several issues being debated on this defacto free-for-all thread..

The only person who lost in this thread is you Okham, your credibility is waning, you're disappointing your fan club, awwwwww.

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Ya, you guys are the shit. I blew a hole the size of Texas in the original argument and now your off to sleazier tactics. And you think I'm the slippery prevaricator? Maybe you should take a step away from the computer screen and look in the mirror once in a while.

The shit? wow.
I see me and I understand you concede on the fact that you screwed this thread.
But you still owe the forum a couple more.
Try again.

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Just a thought

O I love this!
Just a thought, as if this post just rolled off your fingertips...lololhahahlol
A little dip now eh?
What a thespian!
What charactore!
Well, Mr. Okham, you went further than just a thought, you posted some real far out machinations here, you even went so low as to judge who 'utterly' loses this debate and to myself, who 'snorTs' my intellect into this debate.
You are the shit man...

cat's meow · #**266** (**permalink**) 01-06-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

Ssspplaaaaaaaattttt! WOW cat you're a real friggin' rocket scientist!
sphincter says wha?

I just went back through a number of your posts and you bring not even a nano-measurement of IQ above what one of the Jimmy twins contribute to the conversation and debate. Even your smart ass comments are stupid, idiotic, and adolescent at best. Especially when you write your rabble in what you consider to be some sort of poetry or haiku it is really infantile. These things are not even funny, are completely void of humor, and I have not seen where you bring real substantive cause and effect debate. There are people who sit more right here that people on the left actually have good debate with (and visa versa). Note: the following is the highest level that I, personally, can communicate with you in the future...

Rename yourself as MORONINTHEMIDDLE...

OkhamsRazor · #**267** (**permalink**) 01-06-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

Here's where he's up for the challenge and then disappears.

Sorry, I've got a bit more going on in my life than babysitting AWE. It's not a friggen chat room. I didn't disappear, I have a job that requires a minimum of 14 hours a day... EVERY day and responsibilities beyond that. But hey... I couldn't possibly expect someone like you to understand. So you are excused, lmao.

Oh... and as for the fan club... yup... I've got mine, where's yours? Annoyed, I've never attacked you or even acknowledged you unless in reply to your attempt to use two dollar words in completely in appropriate places (whatever thesaurus you are using to attempt to seem more intelligent than you are should really be given a rest). I mostly just cringe and smile when I read your stuff. Do you annoy me? Not in the least. With a little work, you might just make it to comedy relief, though you're not there yet.

But it's painfully obvious that I continually hit a nerve with you.

cat's meow · #**268** (**permalink**) 01-06-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Sorry, I've got a bit more going on in my life than babysitting AWE. It's not a friggen chat room. I didn't disappear, I have a job that requires a minimum of 14 hours a day... EVERY day and responsibilities beyond that. But hey... I couldn't possibly expect someone like you to understand. So you are excused, lmao.

Oh... and as for the fan club... yup... I've got mine, where's yours? Annoyed, I've never attacked you or even acknowledged you unless in reply to your attempt to use two dollar words in completely in appropriate places (whatever thesaurus you are using to attempt to seem more intelligent than you are should really be given a rest). I mostly just cringe and smile when I read your stuff. Do you annoy me? Not in the least. With a little work, you might just make it to comedy relief, though you're not there yet.

But it's painfully obvious that I continually hit a nerve with you.

Agreed, this guy MORONINTHEMIDDLE is some sort of sycophant idiot who is about as functional as a used condom.