Is George Bush clinically insane?

Stifler · #21 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 01:33 PM

Not insane, just lacking a mind of his own. ahh well, I guess that's what religious fundamentalism does to ya....

monkeyinthemiddle · #22 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

Yeah well.... lying tends to be pretty stressful. Especially when you are telling whoppers like this admin does. Insane? Who cares? He's a moron. If you look closely, I think you can see the puppet strings.

Which is worse? a lack of critical thinking, or chasing butterflies?

heeheheheh..this is the best you can come up with?
Bush is not unlike any president aging through their terms..
A little gray hair, dark circles under the eyes..he's working hard eh?
That fact alone gets liberals like you all gooey.
Clinton wound up with a bad ticker, one could connect such an illness to a continuous liar.
Finger pointing can make you ill, haven't liberals learned anything from their own party image?
sex-drugs and rocknroll is a killer.
Conservatives don't go for botox, lippo and hair dye, its tacky, and beside that, it doesn't conceal the liars real face, look at kerry!
Has anyone noticed the hollywood left since the dems took house?
Whoa, danny devito shows up to "the view" wasted, slurring his jibberish, babbling bile all over the show, he ended up on O'donnells lap...a great ventriloquist act!
Madonna illegally adopts an african baby so she too can be a poser angelina.
And our fine talented youth...we have a drunken whoring lohan/paris/spears, the up and coming "new elite"~ lets not leave out spears photographic cooch...
With an infant and a toddler at home she is divorced and dancing without panties...the dems are in da house!
We have the loathing left, the aristocrats degrading themselves to the world, it's only the begining for pelosi and the follywood left.
And the funniest?
The cherry, Jacko makes a come back, an appearance, during the exact week the dems took house! HA!
The best you can come up with is a stressed out Bush..lolollolololHOHOHO!
I am sitting back and watching some changes, some big changes.
The vile ridden hollywood elite grabbing the big brass ring, wow, this is great stuff eh?

Prisoner1 · #23 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

heeheheheh..this is the best you can come up with?
Bush is not unlike any president aging through their terms..
A little gray hair, dark circles under the eyes..he's working hard eh?
That fact alone gets liberals like you all gooey.
Clinton wound up with a bad ticker, one could connect such an illness to a continuous liar.
Finger pointing can make you ill, haven't liberals learned anything from their own party image?
sex-drugs and rocknroll is a killer.
Conservatives don't go for botox, lippo and hair dye, its tacky, and beside that, it doesn't conceal the liars real face, look at kerry!
Has anyone noticed the hollywood left since the dems took house?
Whoa, danny devito shows up to "the view" wasted, slurring his jibberish, babbling bile all over the show, he ended up on O'donnells lap...a great ventriloquist act!
Madonna illegally adopts an african baby so she too can be a poser angelina.
And our fine talented youth...we have a drunken whoring lohan/paris/spears, the up and coming "new elite"~ lets not leave out spears photographic cooch...
With an infant and a toddler at home she is divorced and dancing without panties...the dems are in da house!
We have the loathing left, the aristocrats degrading themselves to the world, it's only the begining for pelosi and the follywood left.
And the funniest?
The cherry, Jacko makes a come back, an appearance, during the exact week the dems took house! HA!
The best you can come up with is a stressed out Bush..lolollolololHOHOHO!
I am sitting back and watching some changes, some big changes.
The vile ridden hollywood elite grabbing the big brass ring, wow, this is great stuff eh?

What the hell does the "hollywood elite" have to do with Bush's sanity? Just another attempt to divert the direction of the thread!

Dom1 · #24 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prisoner1

What the hell does the "hollywood elite" have to do with Bush's sanity? Just another attempt to divert the direction of the thread!

I am not sure you should be commenting on anyone else's sanity.

As far as the direction of the thread, it was not meant to be a serious discussion. It was a thread meant to be confronataional only and has no merits - much like your "story" has no merits. Crazy man.

cat's meow · #25 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 06:57 PM

Op ed by Frank Rich on Bush

Quote:

Has He Started Talking to the Walls?
By Frank Rich
The New York Times

Sunday 03 December 2006

It turns out we've been reading the wrong Bob Woodward book to understand what's going on with President Bush. The text we should be consulting instead is "The Final Days," the Woodward-Bernstein account of Richard Nixon talking to the portraits on the White House walls while Watergate demolished his presidency. As Mr. Bush has ricocheted from Vietnam to Latvia to Jordan in recent weeks, we've witnessed the troubling behavior of a president who isn't merely in a state of denial but is completely untethered from reality. It's not that he can't handle the truth about Iraq. He doesn't know what the truth is.

The most startling example was his insistence that Al Qaeda is primarily responsible for the country's spiraling violence. Only a week before Mr. Bush said this, the American military spokesman on the scene, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, called Al Qaeda "extremely disorganized" in Iraq, adding that "I would question at this point how effective they are at all at the state level." Military intelligence estimates that Al Qaeda makes up only 2 percent to 3 percent of the enemy forces in Iraq, according to Jim Miklaszewski of NBC News. The bottom line: America has a commander in chief who can't even identify some 97 percent to 98 percent of the combatants in a war that has gone on longer than our involvement in World War II.

But that's not the half of it. Mr. Bush relentlessly refers to Iraq's "unity government" though it is not unified and can only nominally govern. (In Henry Kissinger's accurate recent formulation, Iraq is not even a nation "in the historic sense.") After that pseudo-government's prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, brushed him off in Amman, the president nonetheless declared him "the right guy for Iraq" the morning after. This came only a day after The Times's revelation of a secret memo by Mr. Bush's national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, judging Mr. Maliki either "ignorant of what is going on" in his own country or disingenuous or insufficiently capable of running a government. Not that it matters what Mr. Hadley writes when his boss is impervious to facts.

In truth the president is so out of it he wasn't even meeting with the right guy. No one doubts that the most powerful political leader in Iraq is the anti-American, pro-Hezbollah cleric Moktada al-Sadr, without whom Mr. Maliki would be on the scrap heap next to his short-lived predecessors, Ayad Allawi and Ibrahim al-Jaafari. Mr. Sadr's militia is far more powerful than the official Iraqi army that we've been helping to "stand up" at hideous cost all these years. If we're not going to take him out, as John McCain proposed this month, we might as well deal with him directly rather than with Mr. Maliki, his puppet. But our president shows few signs of recognizing Mr. Sadr's existence.

In his classic study, "The Great War and Modern Memory," Paul Fussell wrote of how World War I shattered and remade literature, for only a new language of irony could convey the trauma and waste. Under the auspices of Mr. Bush, the Iraq war is having a comparable, if different, linguistic impact: the more he loses his hold on reality, the more language is severed from its meaning altogether.

When the president persists in talking about staying until "the mission is complete" even though there is no definable military mission, let alone one that can be completed, he is indulging in pure absurdity. The same goes for his talk of "victory," another concept robbed of any definition when the prime minister we are trying to prop up is allied with Mr. Sadr, a man who wants Americans dead and has many scalps to prove it. The newest hollowed-out Bush word to mask the endgame in Iraq is "phase," as if the increasing violence were as transitional as the growing pains of a surly teenager. "Phase" is meant to drown out all the unsettling debate about two words the president doesn't want to hear, "civil war."

When news organizations, politicians and bloggers had their own civil war about the proper usage of that designation last week, it was highly instructive - but about America, not Iraq. The intensity of the squabble showed the corrosive effect the president's subversion of language has had on our larger culture. Iraq arguably passed beyond civil war months ago into what might more accurately be termed ethnic cleansing or chaos. That we were fighting over "civil war" at this late date was a reminder that wittingly or not, we have all taken to following Mr. Bush's lead in retreating from English as we once knew it.

It's been a familiar pattern for the news media, politicians and the public alike in the Bush era. It took us far too long to acknowledge that the "abuses" at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere might be more accurately called torture. And that the "manipulation" of prewar intelligence might be more accurately called lying. Next up is "pullback," the Iraq Study Group's reported euphemism to stave off the word "retreat" (if not retreat itself).

In the case of "civil war," it fell to a morning television anchor, Matt Lauer, to officially bless the term before the "Today" show moved on to such regular fare as an update on the Olsen twins. That juxtaposition of Iraq and post-pubescent eroticism was only too accurate a gauge of how much the word "war" itself has been drained of its meaning in America after years of waging a war that required no shared sacrifice. Whatever you want to label what's happening in Iraq, it has never impeded our freedom to dote on the Olsen twins.

I have not been one to buy into the arguments that Mr. Bush is stupid or is the sum of his "Bushisms" or is, as feverish Internet speculation periodically has it, secretly drinking again. I still don't. But I have believed he is a cynic - that he could always distinguish between truth and fiction even as he and Karl Rove sold us their fictions. That's why, when the president said that "absolutely, we're winning" in Iraq before the midterms, I just figured it was more of the same: another expedient lie to further his partisan political ends.

But that election has come and gone, and Mr. Bush is more isolated from the real world than ever. That's scary. Neither he nor his party has anything to gain politically by pretending that Iraq is not in crisis. Yet Mr. Bush clings to his delusions with a near-rage - watch him seethe in his press conference with Mr. Maliki - that can't be explained away by sheer stubbornness or misguided principles or a pat psychological theory. Whatever the reason, he is slipping into the same zone as Woodrow Wilson did when refusing to face the rejection of the League of Nations, as a sleepless L.B.J. did when micromanaging bombing missions in Vietnam, as Ronald Reagan did when checking out during Iran-Contra. You can understand why Jim Webb, the Virginia senator-elect with a son in Iraq, was tempted to slug the president at a White House reception for newly elected members of Congress. Mr. Bush asked "How's your boy?" But when Mr. Webb replied, "I'd like to get them out of Iraq," the president refused to so much as acknowledge the subject. Maybe a timely slug would have woken him up.

Or at least sounded an alarm. Some two years ago, I wrote that Iraq was Vietnam on speed, a quagmire for the MTV generation. Those jump cuts are accelerating now. The illusion that America can control events on the ground is just that: an illusion. As the list of theoretical silver bullets for Iraq grows longer (and more theoretical) by the day - special envoy, embedded military advisers, partition, outreach to Iran and Syria, Holbrooke, international conference, NATO - urgent decisions have to be made by a chief executive who is in touch with reality (or such is the minimal job description). Otherwise the events in Iraq will make the Decider's decisions for him, as indeed they are doing already.

The joke, history may note, is that even as Mr. Bush deludes himself that he is bringing "democracy" to Iraq, he is flouting democracy at home. American voters could not have delivered a clearer mandate on the war than they did on Nov. 7, but apparently elections don't register at the White House unless the voters dip their fingers in purple ink. Mr. Bush seems to think that the only decision he had to make was replacing Donald Rumsfeld and the mission of changing course would be accomplished.

Tell that to the Americans in Anbar Province. Back in August the chief of intelligence for the Marines filed a secret report - uncovered by Thomas Ricks of The Washington Post - concluding that American troops "are no longer capable of militarily defeating the insurgency in al-Anbar." That finding was confirmed in an intelligence update last month. Yet American troops are still being tossed into that maw, and at least 90 have been killed there since Labor Day, including five marines, ages 19 to 24, around Thanksgiving.

Civil war? Sectarian violence? A phase? This much is certain: The dead in Iraq don't give a damn what we call it.

Sam · #26 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

heeheheheh..this is the best you can come up with?
Bush is not unlike any president aging through their terms..
A little gray hair, dark circles under the eyes..he's working hard eh?
That fact alone gets liberals like you all gooey.
Clinton wound up with a bad ticker, one could connect such an illness to a continuous liar.
Finger pointing can make you ill, haven't liberals learned anything from their own party image?
sex-drugs and rocknroll is a killer.
Conservatives don't go for botox, lippo and hair dye, its tacky, and beside that, it doesn't conceal the liars real face, look at kerry!
Has anyone noticed the hollywood left since the dems took house?
Whoa, danny devito shows up to "the view" wasted, slurring his jibberish, babbling bile all over the show, he ended up on O'donnells lap...a great ventriloquist act!
Madonna illegally adopts an african baby so she too can be a poser angelina.
And our fine talented youth...we have a drunken whoring lohan/paris/spears, the up and coming "new elite"~ lets not leave out spears photographic cooch...
With an infant and a toddler at home she is divorced and dancing without panties...the dems are in da house!
We have the loathing left, the aristocrats degrading themselves to the world, it's only the begining for pelosi and the follywood left.
And the funniest?
The cherry, Jacko makes a come back, an appearance, during the exact week the dems took house! HA!
The best you can come up with is a stressed out Bush..lolollolololHOHOHO!
I am sitting back and watching some changes, some big changes.
The vile ridden hollywood elite grabbing the big brass ring, wow, this is great stuff eh?

MIM You are too smart to try and imply the crazed Hollywood extremists you mention are the DNC. I am sorry to inform you and break your delusion but Botox and plastic surgery is not partisan and some women as they age try to find the fountain of youth in those methods.Could you site your source that it is more often Democrats than Republicans that seek plastic surgery! LOL As though Britney with no panities is somehow connected to which party is in control of congress. Get Real! Oh and the Hiltons they are diehard republicans. Does Paris Hiltons sex video reflect somehow on the RNC. Absolutely Not!! Only an imbecile would imply such nonsence.

OkhamsRazor · #27 (**permalink**) 12-03-2006, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

heeheheheh..this is the best you can come up with?
Bush is not unlike any president aging through their terms..
A little gray hair, dark circles under the eyes..he's working hard eh?
That fact alone gets liberals like you all gooey.

For the thousandth time, I'm not a lib... in fact, I'm an equall opportunity hater of both parties. The Dems want your money but will let you think whatever you like, The Reps will let you keep more of your money but want you to think, look, act and worship as they do.

So... do you keep your mind or your money... doesnt' sound like much of a choice to me. What really chaps my ass is that folks have somehow been duped into thinking that there can be only two real parties. and if you belong to one of them, then everyone must belong to one or the other. You just can't wrap your head around independant thought can you? Both parties SUCK, both are corporate whores, both think that they have an exclusive right to govern, both are piss on the barrel head.

Have I made myself clear?

Oh and the fact that you know so much and give such credence to what is being done hollywierd is evidence that you are being distracted from the real problems facing this country. To the Paris Hiltons and Micheal Richards... they are CLOWNS... all of them. We pay them to entertain us, nothing more. The fact that you include their names in a political posting as if they have any bearing on anything tells much. They only have as much influence as you give them.

Petey · #28 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

For the thousandth time, I'm not a lib... in fact, I'm an equall opportunity hater of both parties. The Dems want your money but will let you think whatever you like, The Reps will let you keep more of your money but want you to think, look, act and worship as they do.

So... do you keep your mind or your money... doesnt' sound like much of a choice to me. What really chaps my ass is that folks have somehow been duped into thinking that there can be only two real parties. and if you belong to one of them, then everyone must belong to one or the other. You just can't wrap your head around independant thought can you? Both parties SUCK, both are corporate whores, both think that they have an exclusive right to govern, both are piss on the barrel head.

Have I made myself clear?

Oh and the fact that you know so much and give such credence to what is being done hollywierd is evidence that you are being distracted from the real problems facing this country. To the Paris Hiltons and Micheal Richards... they are CLOWNS... all of them. We pay them to entertain us, nothing more. The fact that you include their names in a political posting as if they have any bearing on anything tells much. They only have as much influence as you give them.

I couldn't agree more. republicans & democrats are two sides of the same coin. The Siamese Bush/Clinton Twins prove it .Welcome back Okham.

nathanbforrest45 · #29 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 08:21 AM

Calling those you disagree with insane is a common practice of Russian and Chinese communist. Also, Castro has sent many to the insane asylums for disagreeing with him. People like Georgie Porgie "know" what is good for us so if you disagree the only reason you are doing so is because you are insane.

Nice try guys, this may work in Russia but I doubt that it would play in Peoria

Dom1 · #30 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor

For the thousandth time, I'm not a lib... in fact, I'm an equall opportunity hater of both parties. The Dems want your money but will let you think whatever you like, The Reps will let you keep more of your money but want you to think, look, act and worship as they do.

So... do you keep your mind or your money... doesnt' sound like much of a choice to me. What really chaps my ass is that folks have somehow been duped into thinking that there can be only two real parties. and if you belong to one of them, then everyone must belong to one or the other. You just can't wrap your head around independant thought can you? Both parties SUCK, both are corporate whores, both think that they have an exclusive right to govern, both are piss on the barrel head.

So Dems don't tell you how to think, huh? They actually let you think whatever you want, right? Do you want to rethink that one or actually stick with it?