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11-11-2006, 09:49 PM
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There are "treason" like offences (and punishments) which do not require war. Example - the Rosenbergs.
The ring leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion were also convicted of treason, but I think Washington pardoned them. So war is not the only time treason or treason like offences apply.
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11-12-2006, 10:55 AM
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Yes a person can commit treason but selling secerets to forgein powers. 
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11-12-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rob
What should be done to people or oganizations that commit treasonous acts?
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That is such an ignorant statement... first of all the war in Iraq is lost. You own President finally admitted his mistakes and fired rummy. Secondly, the dems support the troops, but your bullshit war has made apparent that we will be in the region for a very long time given the mess we are in. So you sit down and have conversation with the mothers of the dead soldiers you war is going to be producing in the coming months and years.
By the way what you are talking about is called the FIRST AMENDMENT. And by the way the voters came the same conclusion on tueday.
Anyone who doesn't agree with the right is treasonous. incredible.
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11-12-2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dom1
There are "treason" like offences (and punishments) which do not require war. Example - the Rosenbergs.
The ring leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion were also convicted of treason, but I think Washington pardoned them. So war is not the only time treason or treason like offences apply.
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I think if you are President and you lie to the people and get them into a bullshit war, then that is treason. I have feeling we'll be investigating that soon, now that we are in control of oversight.
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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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11-12-2006, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right
That is such an ignorant statement... first of all the war in Iraq is lost.
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Actually what is ignorant is not realizing that IF the war is lost it is because of the treasonous actions of some in this country. Which is exactly why they need to be investigated and prosecuted for their crimes.
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11-12-2006, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right
I think if you are President and you lie to the people and get them into a bullshit war, then that is treason. I have feeling we'll be investigating that soon, now that we are in control of oversight.
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It sounds to me like you and your mouse named "we" would like nothing better than to bring a civil war to the U.S.
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11-12-2006, 03:28 PM
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Treason
[quote=heyjude122;59132]Treason is aiding and or abetting the enemy in time of war. Are we in a war? Did congress declare war? What George declares doesn't count
WE ARE AT WAR.CONGRESS GAVE THE PRESIDENT THE OK TO GO INTO IRAQ.WE WERE ATTACKED ON SETEMBER 11TH . PRESIDENT BUSH DID NOT SAY CONGRESS BE DAMNED ,IM GOING TO ATTACK IRAQ. THAT PUT ASIDE, WE ARE IN A WAR FOR OUR VERY LIVES, THOSE MUSLIMS WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND KILL US ALL. THEY HAVE SAID SO. MANY TIMES. THE PATRIOT ACT AND THE FOREIGN WIRETAPPING ARE HELPING TO KEEP THIS NATION SAFE, AND TO LEAK IT TO THE PRESS AND OUR ENEMIES IS TREASON. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. WHOEVER HAS DONE THIS IS A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES AND IN TIME OF WAR SHOULD BE HUNTED DOWN AND GIVEN THE DEATH PENALTY.
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11-12-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right
I think if you are President and you lie to the people and get them into a bullshit war, then that is treason. I have feeling we'll be investigating that soon, now that we are in control of oversight.
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I truly think you are an idiot and you confirm it almost daily.
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11-12-2006, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right
That is such an ignorant statement... first of all the war in Iraq is lost. You own President finally admitted his mistakes and fired rummy. Secondly, the dems support the troops, but your bullshit war has made apparent that we will be in the region for a very long time given the mess we are in. So you sit down and have conversation with the mothers of the dead soldiers you war is going to be producing in the coming months and years.
By the way what you are talking about is called the FIRST AMENDMENT. And by the way the voters came the same conclusion on tueday.
Anyone who doesn't agree with the right is treasonous. incredible.
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How ignornt is are the Walkers and the Ameses families that sold secrets to the enemy oh of course it is Bushes fault.
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11-13-2006, 10:26 AM
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Robert E Lee = Treason incarnated
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