You can tell by two posts, that I'm as closed minded as you? Can you say foolish? So your always right in your idealogy and on the issues? And you call me closed minded? This is what I know about unyielding (rigid). If a tree refuses to not sway even a little with the wind, it will be blown over, and even the best made brickwall can be bulldozed.

Maybe and maybe not.


What kind of courage does it take to bounce around and say you are a conservative and then say you are in the center all the while arguing for almost every liberal position?

Some courage you have to stand up for you convictions. Do you have any convictions?

What? Earlier you said you were in the center.

You also said that liberals were independant thinkers (which would put yourself into the camp of those who aren't independant thinkers - by your own admission).

Please tell me all of your conservative views. I can hardly wait to hear them.

I know complex concepts confuse you Dom, so I'll try to keep this simple. I was raised conservative, and have been a traditional conservative on most of my views for most of my life. Both parties have picked up and moved to far opposite corners from where they were. Leaving folks like me IN THE CENTER!

As for liberal positions... Bashing BushCo isn't a liberal position, it's honest. Encouraging business growth without handing the large corps a free reign to do whatever at the expense of the people a liberal position, it's common sense, or used to be.

Sorry, I'm not a "my party right or wrong" kinda guy. I don't care where I see right and wrong, I'm gonna call it. Frankly, I've lost every bit of respect for 90% of republicans both in and out of DC over the last seven years. The number of bad decisions and decisions that have no benefit to the American people made on the right in that time have given the left easy access to claiming the right decisions. If I point out that conservatives have turned into POS, that doesn't automatically put me in a liberal mindset.

As for the drill now BS... My position is to blow it out your ass. It's time to invest in a new industry. One that is likely to get every bit as big and powerful as Big Oil, but is very "this century" not last. It's a position that protects America's preeminence of leadership in the world. It's a business growth model. Drilling every last drop of oil we have available in a rush to be the first to deplete our reserves is RETARDED and not at all in keeping with the conservative value of SAVE for the FUTURE! Don't crack into the piggy back just because you hit a rough spot.

Oh yes my friend, and they are strong enough to resist the undertow that has dragged the republicans and democrats alike to ridiculous extremes. And it affords me the comfort of seeing things above the could of hyperbole.

No Dom, that is your inference. And it's incorrect. Again, complexity is not your forte. I didn't say liberals were the only independent thinkers, I did not say it was the hallowed ground of libs. You're a real binary kind of guy, huh? Left/right, on/off, black/white...

Right, I'm going to sit here and enumerate my beliefs for your judgement. ROFLMAO. Tell you what, if you are that interested, uncensored08 made a list of what "conservatives believe". I agreed with him on almost every one of the dozen or more principles he laid out. Go find that. Sorry to hear you're so locked in step that you think a conservative MUST be republican and that any deviation MUST mean your a democrat, socialist, leftist.

Yet another casualty of our two party system.

So here I sit in the CENTER, with largely conservative values, putting country before party and waiting for either side to get a clue.

people people please. we must remain united while we harvest the rice crop.

So what conservative values are you talking about? I didn't ask anything about Republicans or democrats, just interested in seeing all those conservative values you speak of. I think it would be interesting to see what you think a conservative is, you know, since you are one.

"To put conservatism in a bottle with a label is like trying to liquefy the atmosphere … The difficulty arises from the nature of the thing. For conservatism is less a political doctrine than a habit of mind, a mode of feeling, a way of living
-Scholar R.J. White

As for functions of government, smaller gov't, limited taxation, right to bear arms, gradual societal change, constitutional constructionism

Personally, I was raised on and believe in traditional American values, family, capitalism (though not unrestrained). I believe in building real wealth and keeping it to do with as you please. I believe in taking responsibility for my words and deeds and expect the same of others. I believe in drawing from the wisdom of those that have come before me and learning from others mistakes before repeating them myself. I believe honesty in all forms is essential to integrity and respect. I believe in identifying the core of a problem and addressing it before attempting to apply a solution. I believe in planning for the future even if it means sacrifice. I believe that there are no perfect solutions and that every freedom has responsibilities and costs associated with them, and not minor ones I might add. I believe that the simple solutions are rarely easy and that the easy solutions are not solutions at all, but a mortgaging of future generations that have no voice in the decision.

And how can we expect future generations to look back and respect us enough to value our wisdom to protect their future if we have not done so? How can future generations hold on to traditions and revere them if the example we set is to give them not a thought at all? Nothing will destroy the future of conservative values more completely and fuel the rise of 1000 haphazard attempts to find a new path. And nothing will compromise it more today than an unwillingness to recognize that it's intent is not to win out and be the only or even the predominant party/ideology, but to provide a healthy counterpart of checks and balances to the political process. Both parties play a roll, or should. Sadly, both parties have lost their way.





Commissioner had a nice list that I agreed with at about 95%

I could go on and on, but I have a feeling if I asked you to justify your beliefs you would not go to as much trouble if you bothered at all. So, now you may pass judgement on me yet again, worthless though it may be.

Now then, having said that, there ARE values contained here that are shared between the left and right, though neither would agree to it. There are also some social programs that I think are necessary until this society can pull itself back together. But they are generally poorly run, poorly funded and never fully address the core of the problem. There are issues that I agree with the left on. But not as a nod to the entire ideology, but as a matter of honest practicality.

And the translation from Arabic to English is tough.

But the poster is on a Jihad and must do what it takes.

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has Bush really make America more secure? he sure has not make the world safer. he has not whacked terrorism like you say. Osama bin ladin is still running free to keep terrorism in the world.

Nice to see your English has improved. The world doesn't need Bin Laden for terrorism, there are enough nuts around.

No he hasn't. Unless you consider the reduction of American liberties more security. Bush has only made his friends more secure.