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06-20-2008, 11:02 AM
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Let Bill pay the bills
In the good old days American husbands were the breadwinners. So why hasn’t Bill Clinton offered to pay his wife’s debts the way millions of American husbands payoff those little shopping sprees their wives enjoy? He is supposedly raking it in on his speaking engagements.
Senator Clinton reminds me of a habitual gambler I knew in my long-ago youth. One time he let the loan sharks get into him pretty good. When he could not come up with the vig he came begging all of his FORMER friends to help save his knee caps. I have not seen the guy in five decades, but I heard that he uses sticks when he walks. Senator Clinton has the option of going to the sharks, and she has Secret Service bodyguards to protect her knees.
Mrs. Obama’s soft-touch, $300,00 a year, political job shows that the Obamas are in public life for all they can get. Name me one “equal distribution of the wealth” communist who isn’t! So I will be very surprised if they bailed out a white woman who sees them as her inferiors.
The delicious part is this: Loan or no loan, Clinton, and every other honky inside the Beltway, could very well end up kissing more than the presidential ring. Don’t think for a minute that the angry Obamas will forgo the pleasure of rubbing Beltway white noses in black excrement. I can just see ribs and chitlins being served at White House dinners. That’s about the only joy I can see in an Obama victory.
Clinton’s campaign debt is a breath of fresh air. If enough Americans hear about it they might finally learn that they are suckers to give anything to candidates seeking their party’s nomination. Note this excerpt from the enclosed article:
"It was a pre-Internet strategy," said a top Democratic official. "You go to your big donors and get them to max out. Now it's almost impossible to get money because it's over. Why would somebody want to give to retire a debt for somebody who lost?"
Those big donors buy influence. Average Americans get nothing for their money except the feeling that they had a say in “democracy.”
The big donors are too smart to throw good money after bad; so Clinton wants Barrack’s small donors to bail her out. That’s chutzpa. And isn’t it just like people who feed at the public trough to expect someone else to pickup the tab?
As for stiffing campaign workers, vendors, etc., they were hoping to benefit from a Clinton victory. They gambled and lost. As far as I can see they are not owed a thing if they were too stupid to get paid up-front. You can be damn sure that no television station, or newspaper, ever took a marker for a candidate’s campaign ads.
The Internet did something that television never accomplished. It transformed the con job; making it easier to separate the pigeons from their money. The Net did not change what politicians are all about. My contention has always been that average Americans should wait until after the conventions have selected the candidates before giving a penny to their party of choice. Even then —— it’s a suckers game.
Hillary Clinton struggles with debt
BY KENNETH R. BAZINET and MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Thursday, June 19th 2008, 7:27 PM
WASHINGTON - Hillary Clinton's fund-raising has run so dry she'll likely have to eat the entire
$11 million loan she gave her campaign, sources said.
Clinton's push to retire her debt - more than $20 million including her loan - is going so poorly
that getting help paying it down has become a major point of negotiation with Barack Obama,
who wants Clinton to help smooth things with angry Clinton die-hards, sources said.
"I have raised nothing since the campaign ended," one Clinton money person said.
That's left the Clintons in a bind, choosing between stiffing themselves, major creditors like
pollster Mark Penn or thousands of small vendors.
Sources said the fact they've all but written off their own loan suggests they're favoring the local
caterers and printers they used for campaign events.
"Even the Clintons wouldn't pay themselves back before they pay the little guy in Iowa," a
Clinton fund-raiser said. After she quit, the money "dried up," the source said.
Another said Clinton's campaign failed to understand modern fund-raising, in spite of raising a
stunning $220 million.
"It was a pre-Internet strategy," said a top Democratic official. "You go to your big donors and
get them to max out. Now it's almost impossible to get money because it's over. Why would
somebody want to give to retire a debt for somebody who lost?"
Clinton's best shot at retiring her debt now lies with Obama, who has built the best political cash
machine ever seen. Sources said she wants Obama to tap his full grass-roots ATM, but
negotiations were ongoing.
At stake for Team Obama is getting Clinton out working for him as soon as possible. "She will
not go out until they have an agreement," said a senior source, adding that a deal certainly would
be reached
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...n_struggles_wi
th_debt.html
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06-20-2008, 11:05 AM
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LOL!!! 'little shopping sprees'. What century is it where you live?
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06-20-2008, 11:20 AM
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LOL!!! 'little shopping sprees'. What century is it where you live?
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To sachem: I’m not certain what it is that you are objecting to.
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06-20-2008, 11:25 AM
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For a meer $200,000 investment in the Canadian cattle futures market, she can pay off all of her debts.
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06-20-2008, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Flanders
To sachem: I’m not certain what it is that you are objecting to.
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Husbands payoff the bills from the wife's little shopping sprees.
1. Hillary's campaign is a 'shopping spree'?
2. Women need men to pay their bills?
3. Women go on 'little shopping sprees'?
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06-20-2008, 11:30 AM
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my experiances show that women can make a 100 dollar excursion into a three hundred dollar go for broke deal. i need to invest in an invention, that captures her pee as she pisses down the drain as much money as she cares to.
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06-20-2008, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sachem
Husbands payoff the bills from the wife's little shopping sprees.
1. Hillary's campaign is a 'shopping spree'?
2. Women need men to pay their bills?
3. Women go on 'little shopping sprees'?
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To sachem:
1. Playful attempt at humor: Hillary was shopping for the presidency.
2. I said
“. . . millions of American husbands payoff those little shopping sprees. . .”. I did not say all.
3. More humor. Obviously it didn’t work with you. Sorry about that.
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06-20-2008, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
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To sachem:
1. Playful attempt at humor: Hillary was shopping for the presidency.
2. I said
“. . . millions of American husbands payoff those little shopping sprees. . .”. I did not say all.
3. More humor. Obviously it didn’t work with you. Sorry about that.
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Okay. I missed the humor. Sorry. 
Last edited by sachem; 06-20-2008 at 11:55 AM.
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06-20-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jebe
my experiances show that women can make a 100 dollar excursion into a three hundred dollar go for broke deal. i need to invest in an invention, that captures her pee as she pisses down the drain as much money as she cares to.
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To jebe: As soon as you get the patent put me down for one.
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The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer
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06-20-2008, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sachem
Husbands payoff the bills from the wife's little shopping sprees.
1. Hillary's campaign is a 'shopping spree'?
2. Women need men to pay their bills?
3. Women go on 'little shopping sprees'?
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No always true, look at McMoron.
He let's his drug addict wife pay for most everything.
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