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06-18-2008, 02:10 PM
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If you are not "progressive" ...
...what the hell are you?
And if you are not "progressive", is there any more room on this planet for you than there is for, say, the Taliban?
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06-18-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
...what the hell are you?
And if you are not "progressive", is there any more room on this planet for you than there is for, say, the Taliban?
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If you are not progressive,then you are the opposite,,,"reactionary"
And yes, Right wing Republicans and the Taliban are two good examples
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06-18-2008, 02:38 PM
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...what the hell are you?
And if you are not "progressive", is there any more room on this planet for you than there is for, say, the Taliban?
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Progressive want change for change sake.
Remember that progressives supported force sterilizations of "idiots" and ended up supporting either fascism or communism because they thought that was the future (democracy being dead and all).
Progress without reflection is not a good thing.
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06-18-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
...what the hell are you?
And if you are not "progressive", is there any more room on this planet for you than there is for, say, the Taliban?
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IF..... you are not "progressive" ....... there is a real good chance you actually have a brain ........
If you are "progressive" go lie under the porch with Crawley and "shitforbrainsmakesafoolofherself".......
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06-18-2008, 03:12 PM
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Progressive want change for change sake.
Remember that progressives supported force sterilizations of "idiots" and ended up supporting either fascism or communism because they thought that was the future (democracy being dead and all).
Progress without reflection is not a good thing.
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Progressive want change for change sake.
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A silly generalization...you know better
Progressive thought and actions and reflection are far from mutually exclusive, in fact, intelligent reflection is part of being truly progressive, as opposed to being reactionary, and casting progressives into gas chambers, forcing women to cover their ankles, or claiming dominion over a women’s uterus
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Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !
"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"
Last edited by smart makes a comeback; 06-18-2008 at 03:14 PM.
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06-18-2008, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback
A silly generalization...you know better
Progressive thought and actions and reflection are far from mutually exclusive, in fact, intelligent reflection is part of being truly progressive, as opposed to being reactionary, and casting progressives into gas chambers, forcing women to cover their ankles, or claiming dominion over a women’s uterus
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Not much. Progressives believe in progress. Progress has a strange meaning to many people. In the 30's, as i said, progressives believed in forced sterilization of idiots because they believed it was "scientific". They supported Marxism for much the same reason. This is not my opinion, you can go back and read the arguments. There is a reason my Marx (and his followers) referred to his system as "scientific dialectic".
You cannot discount people who claim to be "progressives" by saying that they are not "true" progressives anymore than conservatives can discount the nasty things that conservatism has been used to defend.
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06-18-2008, 05:55 PM
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In the 30's, as i said, progressives believed in forced sterilization of idiots because they believed it was "scientific".
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>>>Things have changed since the 30s. It's called PROGRESS.
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06-18-2008, 06:35 PM
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Not much. Progressives believe in progress. Progress has a strange meaning to many people. In the 30's, as i said, progressives believed in forced sterilization of idiots because they believed it was "scientific". They supported Marxism for much the same reason. This is not my opinion, you can go back and read the arguments. There is a reason my Marx (and his followers) referred to his system as "scientific dialectic".
You cannot discount people who claim to be "progressives" by saying that they are not "true" progressives anymore than conservatives can discount the nasty things that conservatism has been used to defend.
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Sure you can...
Anyone can call themselves anthing they like...doesnt make it so., and it is 100% legit to make the observation, so long as it can be backed up by example
Funny you should use the example of people who currently call themselves "Conservatives", when in fact thay do not resemble any such thing.
Illustrates my point exactly
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06-18-2008, 06:52 PM
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In the 30's, as i said, progressives believed in forced sterilization of idiots because they believed it was "scientific".
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>>>Things have changed since the 30s.
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Good thing for you eh?
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06-18-2008, 09:46 PM
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Progressives like Woodrow Wilson? Actually, there is a lot of WW in Obama, now isn't there?
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