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06-07-2008, 06:41 AM
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Point is Virgil, the Republican party o Eisenhower and Goldwater of the 50's and 60's was vastly different than the Republican parties of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I & II.
Infact, if both Goldwater and Eisenhower were alive today, they would not recognize todays Republican party and would be horrified and denounce today's GOP.
Having said that......if MLK were alive today he would not be associated with today's GOP; especially with todays GOP's ideology on economics, domestic, and international agenda's.
Lastly, 20 years of Reagan Supply side Economic policies has incrementally dismantled a once prosperous middle class. You stamp out poverty by ensuring their is a prosperous middle class. Even Clinton considered himself an Eisenhower Democrat and governed as a conservative Democrat.
So one could say that the article you provided is like comparing apples to oranges b/c the ideologies of the GOP has changed so much.
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Rasta, would JFK reconize the Democratic party?
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06-07-2008, 09:17 AM
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Rasta, would JFK reconize the Democratic party?
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Yes Rob, he would, except for the fact that the racist Dixicrats switched parties became the republican base
He would see that the groundwork he laid, has translated to success, in spite of right wing opposition.
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality
And many more things the democrats gave us, and the Republicans tried to take away
What he would NOT recognize, is the republican party.
He was dead by the time it stopped being a moderating force with the good of America in mind, and was hijacked by neo Nazi thugs
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06-07-2008, 02:54 PM
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There are still klansmen in congress. Democrats who have seen the light and changed thinking on race relations.
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God bless the glorious KKK and to hell with all race-mixing mongrelizers. Once you white whores go black, don't ever try to come back.
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06-07-2008, 03:02 PM
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[quote=RASTAMAN;450488]Point is Virgil, the Republican party o Eisenhower and Goldwater of the 50's and 60's was vastly different than the Republican parties of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I & II.
Infact, if both Goldwater and Eisenhower were alive today, they would not recognize todays Republican party and would be horrified and denounce today's GOP.
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Goldwater was alright for a Jew, but Ike was a kike stooge par excellence.
Having said that......if MLK were alive today he would not be associated with today's GOP; especially with todays GOP's ideology on economics, domestic, and international agenda's.
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That's right. Marchin' Lucifer Koon would want all his niggers on welfare and in debt to the communi... er, the democrat party.
Lastly, 20 years of Reagan Supply side Economic policies has incrementally dismantled a once prosperous middle class. You stamp out poverty by ensuring their (THERE, dummy) is a prosperous middle class. Even Clinton considered himself an Eisenhower Democrat and governed as a conservative Democrat.
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Clinton governed as a letcher who couldn't keep his dick in his pants and raped women who wouldn't give it up.
So one could say that the article you provided is like comparing apples to oranges b/c the ideologies of the GOP has changed so much.
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One could also say that you are a fullashit nigger, too.
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06-07-2008, 03:04 PM
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Could you please be a tad more childish, fart makes a cumsack? You need to be in kindergarten.
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06-07-2008, 03:50 PM
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Point is Virgil, the Republican party o Eisenhower and Goldwater of the 50's and 60's was vastly different than the Republican parties of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I & II.
No it's not. All of them believe in equality of all people and individual responsibilities. Not handouts but hand ups. I never heard a speech by Dr. King that the blacks are given welfare or reparations or anything but the fair chance. The republicans started the black college system to help blacks advance educationally; the biggest hindrance to success in America is lack of a good education. The democrats started the department of education. A truly dysfunctional department. That keeps blacks and apparently a lot of others brain washed and ignorant.
Infact, if both Goldwater and Eisenhower were alive today, they would not recognize todays Republican party and would be horrified and denounce today's GOP.
That’s just wish full thinking. You can't possibly know that. Besides the republicans would come out in good light when compared to the Democratic Party. That’s speculation too
Having said that......if MLK were alive today he would not be associated with today's GOP; especially with todays GOP's ideology on economics, domestic, and international agenda's.
Over the years a man like Dr. King becomes myth like and the real becomes distorted. There is nothing in the GOPs' ideology that is strikingly against Dr. Kings philosophies. It is more likely that after the all the lives given, including his own for equality, he would cry over the kind of slavery the Democratic Party has subjected his people to.
Lastly, 20 years of Reagan Supply side Economic policies has incrementally dismantled a once prosperous middle class. You stamp out poverty by ensuring their is a prosperous middle class. Even Clinton considered himself an Eisenhower Democrat and governed as a conservative Democrat.
All I can say about that is in the last 20 years the middle class has done pretty well. Most of them however spent it and way more. If you are one of them, so sorry.
So one could say that the article you provided is like comparing apples to oranges b/c the ideologies of the GOP has changed so much.
I'm sorry; it is the nature of conservatism to change slowly. As a matter of fact it is one of the main complaints from the democrats. In fact it is the Dems that changed. A radical move left by the democrats, that by perspective, makes the GOP seem further away to them.
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Have anything besides hysteria to back that up?
If you would READ THE POST...
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Yes Rob, he would, except for the fact that the racist Dixicrats switched parties became the republican base
Ah, you obviously don’t know what a dixicrat was and really still is. It’s OK though you're probably young and went to public school. (Hint look into Nixon’s "southern strategy")
He would see that the groundwork he laid, has translated to success, in spite of right wing opposition.
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality
And many more things the democrats gave us, and the Republicans tried to take away
I notice you give all of the credit and none of the blame to a party that held the presidency less than half the time between 1961 and 2000. But go a head take the credit for the condition of the black man today.
What he would NOT recognize, is the republican party.
It is the Dems that changed. A radical move left by the democrats, that by perspective, makes the GOP seem further away to them.
He was dead by the time it stopped being a moderating force with the good of America in mind, and was hijacked by neo Nazi thugs.
I’m not sure if you’re talking about MLK or JFK doesn’t matter. You’re just letting your frustration and anger show. This is nothing but your opinion.
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Have anything besides hysteria to back that up?
If you would READ THE POST.
Have you heard of google?
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It's quite startling the lack of knowledge democrats have about Dr. King and the history of their own party.
I also find it disturbing, how unwilling they are to even read it in its entirety or their lack of comprehension of it if they did.
What doesn't surprise me is the reaction to hard facts. They just ignore them.
Another hint about dixicrats and where they are, along with some salt in the wound, Robert Byrd, Ernest Hollings.
Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Viet Nam War, President Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that Nigger preacher."
enjoy!
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06-07-2008, 06:05 PM
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Here's the real truth about that black bastard MLK!!
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06-08-2008, 09:50 AM
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Yes Rob, he would, except for the fact that the racist Dixicrats switched parties became the republican base
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Ah, you obviously don’t know what a dixicrat was and really still is. It’s OK though you're probably young and went to public school. (Hint look into Nixon’s "southern strategy
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Clearly you have no clue as to the history of how the south became the core of the GOP base, including events that took place before the southern strategy. That’s ok, you were no doubt home schooled by illiterates
He would see that the groundwork he laid, has translated to success, in spite of right wing opposition.
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality
And many more things the democrats gave us, and the Republicans tried to take away
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I notice you give all of the credit and none of the blame to a party that held the presidency less than half the time between 1961 and 2000. But go a head take the credit for the condition of the black man today.
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That is correct, because the changes wee forged on the streets of America, and in the democratic congress, mostly after 1960 and before 1980, when the Dems held congress for 100% of the time, and when Nixon, and Ford, caved under political expediency
What he would NOT recognize, is the republican party
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It is the Dems that changed. A radical move left by the democrats, that by perspective, makes the GOP seem further away to them
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That is a joke right ?
Barry Goldwater And Nelson Rockefeller (among others) BOTH denounced the direction their party was taking before their deaths (Do you even know who they were ?)
He was dead by the time it stopped being a moderating force with the good of America in mind, and was hijacked by neo Nazi thugs
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I’m not sure if you’re talking about MLK or JFK doesn’t matter. You’re just letting your frustration and anger show. This is nothing but your opinion.
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LOL..My frustration and anger?
In case you haven’t noticed ..we are winning
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality,,,
REMEMBER ?
More then my opinion....it is a fact....something you seem to have great difficulty dealing with
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06-08-2008, 05:32 PM
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Yes Rob, he would, except for the fact that the racist Dixicrats switched parties became the republican base
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Better to be a racist Dixiecrat than a race-mixing, yankee, mongrelizer, jew-stooge, old sport.
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Clearly you have no clue as to the history of how the south became the core of the GOP base, including events that took place before the southern strategy. That’s ok, you were no doubt home schooled by illiterates
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Better to be home-schooled by illiterates than government-schooled by illiterate, affirmative-action, socialist, nit-wit niggers who know less than their students.
He would see that the groundwork he laid, has translated to success, in spite of right wing opposition.
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality
And many more things the democrats gave us, and the Republicans tried to take away
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If it is your belief that political parties an "give" you equality, then you must consider the fact they can also take it away.
That is correct, because the changes wee forged on the streets of America, and in the democratic congress, mostly after 1960 and before 1980, when the Dems held congress for 100% of the time, and when Nixon, and Ford, caved under political expediency
What he would NOT recognize, is the republican party
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Right, because the Reps have become as socialist as the commie Dems in their chase for the nigger and mud vote, which started the ruination of America.
That is a joke right ?
Barry Goldwater And Nelson Rockefeller (among others) BOTH denounced the direction their party was taking before their deaths (Do you even know who they were ?)
He was dead by the time it stopped being a moderating force with the good of America in mind, and was hijacked by neo Nazi thugs
[b]LOL..My frustration and anger?
In case you haven’t noticed ..we are winning
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality,,,
REMEMBER ?
More then my opinion....it is a fact....something you seem to have great difficulty dealing with[/B
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You are so fucking full of shit, old crone.
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That is a joke right ?
Barry Goldwater And Nelson Rockefeller (among others) BOTH denounced the direction their party was taking before their deaths (Do you even know who they were ?)
LOL..My frustration and anger?
In case you haven’t noticed ..we are winning
Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality,,,
REMEMBER ?
More then my opinion....it is a fact....something you seem to have great difficulty dealing with
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Nelson Rockefeller
Denounced the party? On his death bed? He was VP up until ’77 and died in two years later. I’d love to look at your info.
Barry Goldwater
He did become a vocal opponent of the position of the religious right on such issues as gay rights and abortion. He had strong libertarian beliefs. It seems the democrats that defected from the racist and segregationist democratic party, to the “black rights Party” of the republicans, brought all their religious beliefs with them too. But this hardly amounts to a denunciation of his party.
It’s funny really how the extreme wakos, on the far left and far right, have a common base democratic history.
But none of this has anything to do with MLK, JFK or democratic racism. Lets stay on point.
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Poverty cut in half since 1960
Illiteracy cut by 3/4ths
Childhood diseases eliminated
Malnutrition all but eliminated
Desegregation
Gender equality,,,
Yes WE ALL are winning.
"Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.”
“Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30-40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems.”
“the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty”
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