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Old 05-22-2008, 01:53 AM
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I've only been here a few days, but I've noticed something about this site that falls into the "blessing and a curse" category.

AWE is a pure free speech zone. Or at least it appears to be. Which is fantastic. So many other forums are heavily moderated tossing out anyone that doesn't agree with their points of view, philosophy, ideology, or the like. Even the minimally moderated ones are prone to toss out the crackpots that clutter up their otherwise neat little world.

AWE is one of the very few places that embraces all comers... and here in lies the problem. It's not AWE's fault, but the fact that so many other boards shut out the nut jobs, they all wind up here. I fear that even if the rational folks on this site all come to one mind about certain individuals and put them on ignore or refused to give their mentally ill views the time of day, these nut jobs would continue to hang out here because they have nowhere else to go.

I was shocked to see that ONEWHITEDUCK has been granted his own little section on this site. I'm sure to his mind it's a validation of his importance to the discourse here. Personally, I think this sends the wrong message to these delusional people.

I know the temptation to respond to these mentally ill people is hard to avoid. Perhaps it's the hope that one of us will get through to them at some point. Perhaps out of the pure entertainment value of sparring with a hopelessly detached mind. After only a few days, I've grown weary of seeing every other thread topic including the anti-semitic agenda. There are other BS topics on the board, and each of us, I'm sure has slightly different ideas about which those are. But none as pervasive as the one stated above.

But I would like to put forth this notion to those that are of rational mind (never mind right or left, lib or neo-con) that we have far more important matters to discuss than to waste time sparring with hopeless cases. You can't cure mental illness with banter, these folks will never change, but instead are emboldened with each reply, positive or negative. They are just happy to have an audience. Let's face it, if it weren't for these disturbed views, they would be utterly uninteresting people, and thus would not receive a fraction of the attention they crave.

This country is in dire need of our attention. There are incredible pressing problems that need our attention, discussion and action. Is it really in our best interest to egg these fools in psycho bubbles credence of a reply? Is it worth our time? Does it solve anything? Or are we as a nation so conditioned to be entertained that we can't let these folks be, despite it being the best thing for all concerned?

Just a thought...

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Old 05-22-2008, 02:32 AM
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I agree with a whole lot of what you've said in your post...especially that one cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational mind. That being said, I do have to say that some of the folks here are an interesting character study. It's interesting to see what makes people tick...although it's difficult to know what that is for sure when analysing an irrational mind on a message board.

Sometimes I wonder if these "characters" on this site are made up and merely playing a part in a performance. Other times I think they truly do represent the truth about themselves on some deep level...perhaps repressed in the real world, but easy to exhibit here, thus allowing their rants to roam free.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:35 AM
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I agree with a whole lot of what you've said in your post...especially that one cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational mind. That being said, I do have to say that some of the folks here are an interesting character study. It's interesting to see what makes people tick...although it's difficult to know what that is for sure when analysing an irrational mind on a message board.

Sometimes I wonder if these "characters" on this site are made up and merely playing a part in a performance. Other times I think they truly do represent the truth about themselves on some deep level...perhaps repressed in the real world, but easy to exhibit here, thus allowing their rants to roam free.
Even if it is an act, it stems from the same need for attention. The need for people to find them interesting, even if the only way they can achieve that goal is to be vile and disgusting.
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Even if it is an act, it stems from the same need for attention. The need for people to find them interesting, even if the only way they can achieve that goal is to be vile and disgusting.
You may be right.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:46 AM
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Pardon the intrusion, but I've only seen one irrational person on these boards, though a few come close, and he has his own reading room.

You guys come here from boards with an agenda, so did I, but then you want a controlled environment??? You dislike people who disagree with you and that's wrong.

I happen to believe in freedom of speech, whether or not I agree with the poster. I despise several members here, but I don't think they're insane, just doing their very best to lie to simpletons and lead them astray with their agenda.

Not many here agree with my point of view, but you must realize that the jews really hawk this site, there are many of them here, mainly because of Lasher, Canuck & I. We spread the gospel about them, and they can't stand it when you turn the lights on, they attack the posters with name calling and bashing, but they cannot argue facts, all they can try to do is discredit source sites, make you believe you're stupid to review the materials, when the contrary is true.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:30 AM
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Pardon the intrusion, but I've only seen one irrational person on these boards, though a few come close, and he has his own reading room.

You guys come here from boards with an agenda, so did I, but then you want a controlled environment??? You dislike people who disagree with you and that's wrong.

I happen to believe in freedom of speech, whether or not I agree with the poster. I despise several members here, but I don't think they're insane, just doing their very best to lie to simpletons and lead them astray with their agenda.

Not many here agree with my point of view, but you must realize that the Jews really hawk this site, there are many of them here, mainly because of Lasher, Canuck & I. We spread the gospel about them, and they can't stand it when you turn the lights on, they attack the posters with name calling and bashing, but they cannot argue facts, all they can try to do is discredit source sites, make you believe you're stupid to review the materials, when the contrary is true.
I am with you 100% on the free speech. However, when it denigrates to name calling and racial slurs being thrown indiscriminately at anyone that disagrees with you (such as the tactics of Cotton and Lasher) it ceases to be constructive discourse and is firmly seated in the realm of the unstable.

While I have seen the four of you claim to be the disseminators of "truth", I have yet to see one verifiable fact from a credible source. Mind you, I've only been here a few days, but I think I have seen enough to know your overall tact.

You must realize though, that you have little hope of changing anyone's mind about these issues, no more so than they have of changing yours. All you are doing is alienating yourselves from the mainstream. Not that I'm a huge fan of conventional wisdom, but if you want to effect the changes you claim, you are going to need their help, you are going to need to get them on board. And that's not going to happen if it appears that your main goal is the eradication or subjugation of Jews, blacks and all races not white.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the white supremacists haven't yet figured out how to play the game. You folks really need to get much smarter about how you go about attaining your goals.

For example, keep your harshest and most unpalatable views to like minded folks and be more stealthy. Instead of attacking the Jews as owning everything, attack the institutions they have control over. That is to say, you will find much more support for eradicating the federal reserve, than you will for eradicating the Jews you claim run it. You will find many, many more folks willing to take on the abolishment of lobbyists by corps and special interests, than you will for the Jews you claim control these activities.

If you actually attain these goals, then you may be able to point out to the mainstream what effect it's had on the supposed Jewish underground leadership of this country which would actually bolster your cause. AND, you would have achieved something good for all Americans.

BUT, it is clear, at least with Lasher and cotton, that these are not their goals. They want to throw everyone in the same boat. Not all Jews are part of your conspiracy. Hell, the Jews I know aren't really even practicing Jews and are no better off than anyone else I know. Yet you all would condemn them all the same. Hell, you condemn folks who simply disagree with you as being niggers, kikes, etc., when they are clearly not.

You would also lend a bit more credence to your presence here if you weren't so single minded in your choice of topics for the threads you post. Honestly, there must be something else you can talk about once in a while.

But let it be known, that if your intent is to continue the tactics and methods that I have seen so far, I will not be engaging you, I will be fighting tooth and nail to reduce your presence, influence and visibility here. After all, I not only have the same free speech you enjoy, I have the same ignore function that everyone else on this site has.

Think it over

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Old 05-22-2008, 03:50 AM
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I agree with a whole lot of what you've said in your post...especially that one cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational mind. That being said, I do have to say that some of the folks here are an interesting character study. It's interesting to see what makes people tick...although it's difficult to know what that is for sure when analysing an irrational mind on a message board.

Sometimes I wonder if these "characters" on this site are made up and merely playing a part in a performance. Other times I think they truly do represent the truth about themselves on some deep level...perhaps repressed in the real world, but easy to exhibit here, thus allowing their rants to roam free.
Speaking of characters......you are both (jan and backatcha') posers. You are not real.....figure it out.
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I am with you 100% on the free speech. However, when it denigrates to name calling and racial slurs being thrown indiscriminately at anyone that disagrees with you (such as the tactics of Cotton and Lasher) it ceases to be constructive discourse and is firmly seated in the realm of the unstable.

While I have seen the four of you claim to be the disseminators of "truth", I have yet to see one verifiable fact from a credible source. Mind you, I've only been here a few days, but I think I have seen enough to know your overall tact.

You must realize though, that you have little hope of changing anyone's mind about these issues, no more so than they have of changing yours. All you are doing is alienating yourselves from the mainstream. Not that I'm a huge fan of conventional wisdom, but if you want to effect the changes you claim, you are going to need their help, you are going to need to get them on board. And that's not going to happen if it appears that your main goal is the eradication or subjugation of Jews, blacks and all races not white.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the white supremacists haven't yet figured out how to play the game. You folks really need to get much smarter about how you go about attaining your goals.

For example, keep your harshest and most unpalatable views to like minded folks and be more stealthy. Instead of attacking the Jews as owning everything, attack the institutions they have control over. That is to say, you will find much more support for eradicating the federal reserve, than you will for eradicating the Jews you claim run it. You will find many, many more folks willing to take on the abolishment of lobbyists by corps and special interests, than you will for the Jews you claim control these activities.

If you actually attain these goals, then you may be able to point out to the mainstream what effect it's had on the supposed Jewish underground leadership of this country which would actually bolster your cause. AND, you would have achieved something good for all Americans.

BUT, it is clear, at least with Lasher and cotton, that these are not their goals. They want to throw everyone in the same boat. Not all Jews are part of your conspiracy. Hell, the Jews I know aren't really even practicing Jews and are no better off than anyone else I know. Yet you all would condemn them all the same. Hell, you condemn folks who simply disagree with you as being niggers, kikes, etc., when they are clearly not.

You would also lend a bit more credence to your presence here if you weren't so single minded in your choice of topics for the threads you post. Honestly, there must be something else you can talk about once in a while.

But let it be known, that if your intent is to continue the tactics and methods that I have seen so far, I will not be engaging you, I will be fighting tooth and nail to reduce your presence, influence and visibility here. After all, I not only have the same free speech you enjoy, I have the same ignore function that everyone else on this site has.

Think it over

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Put me on ignore you ignorant sack of dogshit.....please..
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:08 AM
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Speaking of characters......you are both (jan and backatcha') posers. You are not real.....figure it out.
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Just for shits and giggles, why don't you tell me what it is you think I'm posing as? I'm waiting.

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