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Old 05-20-2008, 07:09 AM
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Default Amnesty for illegals is coming

The last time I paid attention to liberal pundits in the land of Taking Heads they were smugly reporting that the Democrats would hold onto control of Congress, and possibly gain a veto-proof majority in one, or both, Houses.

No matter which one of the MSM’s candidates becomes president the catastrophes a veto-proof Democrat Congress offers are too numerous to list. The best known of the Democrat calamities are abolishing America’s sovereignty, global warming claptrap, socialized medicine, surrender to Islamic fundamentalists, and the always-popular tax increase.

Appointing liberal activists to the federal bench is also high on the list of train wrecks the Democrats will engineer, as is amnesty for illegals. Even with ordinary control of the Senate, the Democrats will block the one good thing McCain says he will do; that is appoint strict constructionist judges.

With or without good judges, amnesty for illegals is a sure thing because McCain favors amnesty, too. It goes without saying that Clinton/Obama will not only grant amnesty, but will open our borders even wider.

The following blurb by Lou Dobbs tells us that Senator Di Fi (DEMOCRAT) and Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN) can’t wait until next year to get started on amnesty for illegals:


Amnesty for 3 Million Tied to War Funding Updated May 19th, 2008

Pro-amnesty senators are once again trying to shove their amnesty agenda down the throats of
the American people, duplicitously attaching their amnesty legislation to an Iraq war funding
bill. Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Larry Craig added an amendment that would grant five-year
amnesty to illegal aliens who have either worked 150 days in agriculture or earned $7,000 since
January, 2004 – an estimated 3 million farm workers, plus their families.


Lou Dobbs: Issues, TV, Radio, and Books - CNN.com
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:08 AM
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Your second paragraph ruins your credibility. Please show me examples that allowed you to arrive at these conclusions.

As to amnesty, you may be right. All the current candidates support some type of amnesty. However, it is not too late for the American people to put a stop to it. All we have to do is get off our friggin asses and do what the illegals are doing. Protest instead of bitch. The states are starting to take matters into their own hands, and may be unwilling to let the fed govt. take this decision back away from them.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:16 AM
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Immigration is a feast for Lawyers and Politicians are setting it up for them.
Business owners spend several thousand a year to maintain a work visa and there are many hurdles to clear.
Politicians and Lawyers are exploiting US employers.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:22 AM
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Immigration is a feast for Lawyers and Politicians are setting it up for them.
Business owners spend several thousand a year to maintain a work visa and there are many hurdles to clear.
Politicians and Lawyers are exploiting US employers.
If it is such a pain, hire American workers. They are out there ya know. Pay them decent wages and most will stick around. Exploiting US employers, that's a good one.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:00 AM
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Immigration is a feast for Lawyers and Politicians are setting it up for them.
Business owners spend several thousand a year to maintain a work visa and there are many hurdles to clear.
Politicians and Lawyers are exploiting US employers.
A truism...you're correct, but carry it further..they are exploiting everyone not just businessmen. I don't see a way out right now. Write your pols, let them know how you feel. If I had my druthers, I'd like to have seen Newt Gingrich as a candidate.

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Your second paragraph ruins your credibility. Please show me examples that allowed you to arrive at these conclusions.

As to amnesty, you may be right. All the current candidates support some type of amnesty. However, it is not too late for the American people to put a stop to it. All we have to do is get off our friggin asses and do what the illegals are doing. Protest instead of bitch. The states are starting to take matters into their own hands, and may be unwilling to let the fed govt. take this decision back away from them.
From freedomlover1:Your second paragraph ruins your credibility. Please show me examples that allowed you to arrive at these conclusions.

To freedomlover1: I don’t give examples on demand nor do I play Socratic elenchus with anyone on a fishing expedition trying to find out what I know. You can access all of my original messages and responses easily enough. I’ve thoroughly covered every subject you ask about. If you don’t agree with my take on Democrats then by all means state your own opinions.
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A truism...you're correct, but carry it further..they are exploiting everyone not just businessmen. I don't see a way out right now. Write your pols, let them know how you feel. If I had my druthers, I'd like to have seen Newt Gingrich as a candidate.
I like your thinking.
I do not think Newt wants the battle.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:28 AM
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From freedomlover1:Your second paragraph ruins your credibility. Please show me examples that allowed you to arrive at these conclusions.

To freedomlover1: I don’t give examples on demand nor do I play Socratic elenchus with anyone on a fishing expedition trying to find out what I know. You can access all of my original messages and responses easily enough. I’ve thoroughly covered every subject you ask about. If you don’t agree with my take on Democrats then by all means state your own opinions.
I have been offline for awhile, but I will spend some time going over your post when I have time. Judging from you second paragraph statements, it will be quite amusing, even if a waste of time.

It is hard to state an opposing opinion, when the statements made are gross generalizations and unsubstaniated propaganda.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:50 AM
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I have been offline for awhile, but I will spend some time going over your post when I have time. Judging from you second paragraph statements, it will be quite amusing, even if a waste of time.

It is hard to state an opposing opinion, when the statements made are gross generalizations and unsubstaniated propaganda.
From freedomlover1: It is hard to state an opposing opinion, when the statements made are
gross generalizations and unsubstaniated propaganda.

To freedomlover1: In other words your opinions are reactions.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:52 AM
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your buddy bush already gave amnesty to a milion of them.
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