Oil Shale Reserves - A Daily Reckoning White Paper Report

Hear is the solution to our oil needs and the liberals are lining up against it BECAUSE THEY WANT HIGH OIL PRICES!

Someone finds a great solution and liberals start maoning that it makes there pussies ach and hurt. Oh boooo hoooo liberals.

The environmental morons are screaming like someone is stealing there communist maniphestoes

Liberals hate America

So they have to dig this crap up and truck it away to process it and then clean up all the contamination to boot? Sounds like that if they figure out a way to do all that cheaply, they will have found an alternative to oil to begin with and won't need the shale stuff.

Oil shale is not a great solution to the oil crisis as of now. The mining of oil shale brings about a laundry list of environmental problems like groundwater contamination, air pollution, and gas emissions. On top of this, while converting the kerogen into usable crude oil, a lot of waste material is produced, including a significantly larger amount of carbon dioxide than is given off through the production of fossil fuels. It has been proposed that they use some sort of carbon capturing technology through this process, but this increases the risk of groundwater pollution.

That is why we have not jumped on the chance of digging up crude oil yet. There are too many environmental problems that risk damage to the area being mined, the people living around the area, and the world overall. On top of this, the technology is not quite where it needs to be to dig up shale oil safely and effectively.

Did you read the article. Sounds like you didnt. If you did you would have seen they dont need to dig the ground up

The environmental problems are solved by freezing the ground. You didnt read the article either.

This goes right along with what I said about the technology not being there yet. They want to freeze all of the water around the shale deposit, and then heat up the deposit itself. They have proven that they can freeze groundwater to wall it off and heat up shale underground on seperate occasions. The question is whether these tactics will work simultaneously on a large scale, and be free of other environmental issues. A lot has yet to be proven.

From the conclusion of the article:
No where does it indicate that it is liberals who are preventing development of these resources.

Unless you are intending the term liberal to apply to the Bush administration and the investment bankers and other investors who need to put up the money for what are still R&D projects.

And as the article notes, Jimmy Carter, clearly a liberal, was the one who opened up the fields to development, but it was Reagan-Bush, presumably not liberals, who didn't make sure that the development of these fields continued.

Of course, one might ask why they aren't investing in a system of solar thermal to provide the heat. For example, one of the liquids used to transmit the collected heat from the sun is molten salts, and salt is commonly found in conjunction with oil given that it derives from sediments from the oceans.

That would eliminate the cost of electricity, and the cost of the gold or silver electrical conductors.

But I suppose the oil companies just don't have the profit potential to do the research, so the need government welfare to guarantee them a fair profit to them based on the government investment in the project. Perhaps if the government invests $100 Billion and then an on going profit of $10B a year to the oil companies to make the project feasible.

Aside from the fact oil shale is nothing new and likely not our solution I wanted to comment on another quote-

All this talk about *Contamination* has really been grossly over blown. As long as any of these *Contaminates* are located far enough below the surface they do not interefere with our lives then it's not a contamination! Do we call oil at 1 thousand feet a *Contaminant* if it's not yet been drilled? Why sould it be called a contaminate if we put it right back after we used it for what we wanted?

Have you read the states and federal guidelines on how you're suppose to clean up a broken flourescent bulb if it breaks? How about if you spill oil when changing it in your own car? First evacuate everyone within 100yards and put on an envirnomental suit with resperator and assess the situation.....

Right, so until everything is proven to the satistifaction of the Luddites we sit around moaning the fact the Arabs are holding us hostage for our energy needs. EVERYTHING has pro's and con's. Everything. The Luddites of this country only see the pro's of those projects they believe in, like ethanol and those stupid mercury flourescent lights, and only see the con's in everything else.

Are there problems with shale oil? Yes of course. Can we solve those problems? Probably. Will we ever have the opportunity to do so? No, because the Luddites will fight this at every turn until they get what they really want, all of us living in caves, burning cow dung for fuel.

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Yeah, let's do more of the same (oil) expecting different results (energy independence)

fucking stupid.