Arkansas Mother Expecting 18th Child ...

oceanbreeze · #81 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

I absolutely cannot believe why anyone would consider how many children this family has to be of any concern to them at all. The family is not asking for government welfare, is not abusing their children, and seem to be happy and loving. Why do any of you care about this. What a bunch of busy bodies you are all. Tend to your own garden and don't worry about someone elses.

Those of you who would limit by law the number of children in a family scare the hell out of me. Perhaps you would all be better living in China where such laws prevail.

And you call yourselves lovers of freedom. You are nothing but bullshit artist.

If China allowed their population to reproduce like the Duggars their 7.8 earthquake death toll would be much higher.

I normally don't agree with Sam and do agree with her on all her points. Again, her son was talking about a local compound, not the Duggars.

Dom1 · #82 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

OB read through the thread. My son's comment was not about the Duggers, It was about a property close to my house that looks odd to say the least. Thankfully, no one would be allowed to build numerous sheds and dumpsters and mismatched fences in my neighborhood.

If you read through the conversation carefully--it was being manipulated. It had nothing to do with the Dugger's or how many children someone should have. This is a very nice young teen male commenting on a very odd property. From the beginning it was clear, my comment was on this neighbor family, and my son's comment was on the property.

As hard as Dom tried, I never said I wanted to fight with the family, my son never discussed limiting families and my comment was about a local family who appear miserable with 16 children.

I do not watch television shows so I do not know about the Duggers, although I thought from George's article the name of their church was funny. They seem to be enjoying the publicity.

Anyone reading through the conversation would see that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and that based on thenumber of children a family had you referred to them as a compound.

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

I did read it clearly about your son stating it was a local family compound.
I was agreeing with you.

Yep, you are agreeing because of the number of kids. Hey OB, how many kids are people allowed to have?

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

she has 18 kids. have you ever been around kids?

not to mention the fact that we are in recession and have over population. we don't live on farms anymore where we need that many kids.

It is their choice, not yours.

We have over population? Really? Are you sure we have opver population in the US?

Try coming up with better arguments than that.

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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback

Is there ANY doubt as to where on the political spectum these white trash psychos sit ?

What does it matter? I am sure you don't care if inner city blacks have a bunch of kids, the only reason you are criticizing these people is because they are white Christians.

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This is a form of mental illness. This is not unlike people who are found to have 40 cats and 20 years worth of old newspapers in their houses

In this case though, I suspect there is a tinge of psycho right wing non secular mania, with a measure of "procreate to save the white race" mixed in as well.

How is it a form of mental illness? Just because you can't get anyone to fuck you to have even one kid you don't need to be jealous of anyone who does.

How many kids is acceptable?

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Originally Posted by Lasher

If they were niggers, you wouldn't say a thing about it, would you?

While I wouldn't have termed it the way you did, you are exactly right.

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

I've watched "Jon and Kate make 8" and they seem like a normal well adjusted family with multiples. However, the Duggars are a tad odd.

What makes you so normal?

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Who are they hurting??? My grandmother had 8 siblings..were they a tad odd too? This is really hen house gossip shit. ITs like my sister and her freinds ragging on poeple as a conversation.

Sorry but...where the fuck do you all get off?

Well, this is one of the rare occasions that I agree with KNOB.

George O Well · #83 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:25 AM

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What does it matter? Who are you to ask if it is fair to the other 17 children? It is their choice.

1) I can ask whatever I want to ask. I have certain inalienable rights. Among those is the right to ask questions.

2) Doesn't matter if the parents can afford 18 kids. Eighteen kids leave a HUGE carbon footprint and strain our precious resources.

3) How does a kid get the individual attention he/she REQUIRES/DESERVES with 17 siblings and working parents? I assume that's the 'fairness' question you had in mind.

Reynard1967 · #84 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:28 AM

I don't care if they can afford it or not. Socially recklace behavior. The trickle down effect of that many kids is emence. I know they are all well adjusted and seem very nice. They are good parents. but it's to the point of doing it to do it sake.

It's not just this family. And we are not talking 60-70 years ago.
I just can not imagine this is good in the long run.

nathanbforrest45 · #85 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:30 AM

Regarding the issue of over population, if you took all of the people in the United States and stood them at arms length to one another they would occupy the entire state of ----------------------Rhode Island (or Jacksonville Florida, take your pick, they are both about the same size)

nathanbforrest45 · #86 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:38 AM

Personally, I think these people have a lot more patience than I do and I would never want to have 18 children. However, as long as they are not asking anyone else to pay for their responsibility of raising these children what business is it of anyone? What does it matter what kind of house they live in or car they drive or clothes they wear? I guess they can't be rational, normal people since they did not abort the fetus.

I am also amused as some of the reasons the clods are objecting to this. Its going to take away from their ability to drive an SUV or drink a $5.00 for 8 ounces of coffee at Starbucks.

Just leave these people alone and I guarantee they will leave you alone.

oceanbreeze · #87 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:39 AM

How many kids are acceptable in today's society?
It's how many can you afford to provide the basics.
The Duggars didn't provide the basics, ALOT has been donated to them.

I'm going out on a limb here, but several posters are being very judgemental towards, Sam.

Hell has frozen over, I also agree with George.

Reynard1967 · #88 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

Regarding the issue of over population, if you took all of the people in the United States and stood them at arms length to one another they would occupy the entire state of ----------------------Rhode Island (or Jacksonville Florida, take your pick, they are both about the same size)

yes but keep going. Wouldn't want to stop a problem before it is a problem would we? Or is it that it will be someone elses problem your Ok with?

nathanbforrest45 · #89 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Reynard1967

I don't care if they can afford it or not. Socially recklace behavior. The trickle down effect of that many kids is emence. I know they are all well adjusted and seem very nice. They are good parents. but it's to the point of doing it to do it sake.

It's not just this family. And we are not talking 60-70 years ago.
I just can not imagine this is good in the long run.

If you are really concerned you could always have yourself neutered and talk your friends into the same.

What is the "trickle down" effect of 18 children? How do you know that child number 18 is not the one who will find a cure for cancer or discover a method of using the hot air from politicians to power our automobiles? Who are you to dictate how many is enough, how many is too many? This is a prime example of the nanny state gone mad.

If this woman was an athesist and had the kids from 18 different fathers you clowns would be fawning all over her and wanted to turn her into a saint.

oceanbreeze · #90 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

If you are really concerned you could always have yourself neutered and talk your friends into the same.

What is the "trickle down" effect of 18 children? How do you know that child number 18 is not the one who will find a cure for cancer or discover a method of using the hot air from politicians to power our automobiles? Who are you to dictate how many is enough, how many is too many? This is a prime example of the nanny state gone mad.

If this woman was an athesist and had the kids from 18 different fathers you clowns would be fawning all over her and wanted to turn her into a saint.

Listen, the Duggars religion has zip, zero, zilch, to do with the argument over OVER reproducing 18 children. Quit making it about Christianity, when it's clearly not. She's been pregnant 17x the woman knows her cycle and if she cared enough about her kids and the earth she would not have sex when she ovulated. She is not raising those children by herself, the other children are raising them and I can guarantee you will see many of the Duggar children without children when they are married.