Dear Appalachia Mathmatician,

So WTF does that mean?

Are you saying one of your hillbilly pig fucker friends could find water, food and rid themselves of trash and shit in a 36 square foot area? That would be like 1,200 people per acre (about 4 surburban homes).

That's over 10 times the populations density of Manhatten (which is 67,000 population per sq mile), and that doesn't count the creation of clean water and food, or the removal of trash and shit.

Is that how you live?

George
I have never known anyone with 18 children, however I have known three families with 12 or more children and yes one of the children from one of the families bitched and moaned about the lack of attention but for all the rest I never saw a lack of attention for the kids. In order for a super large family to work there has to be a committment from both parents to parent. Not every large family would work but it seems to me that if a family choses to have uberkids then they know and understand what that entails. Now, if she is popping out squawlers because her husband won't do anything not to and she doesn't want to have kids that is a different kettle of pablum. In the case of this family I don't really see where it is anyone elses business how many rugrats she produces.

__________________
Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

So, that family is all about religion, so what? How does that mean I am making it a religious issue, which is what I was accused of.

Can you prove with verifiable statistics that non secularism and mental illness is common?

This is a common tactic of the fascist left - anything that I disagree with is a mental illness so anything you have to say is obviously incorrect. Neat little way to win arguments

__________________
Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

__________________
Ephesians 5:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

Excuse me, I am sorry that you are too uneducated to understand my post. I will not however reduce myself to profanity and name calling. What I meant was we are far from being overpopulated if every man woman and child in the United States will fit into an 800 square mile area. Look at the size of this country, we still have a lot of unused space. Furthermore, science and technology, when you Luddites allow it, is constantly improving crop production so more and more food is being grown on less and less land. We are also constantly improving our water supply and recycling more and more. So, there you are, now you know and there is no excuse for your profound ignorance is there?

__________________
Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

STFU, Nathan...

You're an Idiot, Plain and Simple.

1. I have college education and worked prior to the kids. So I would support my family if my husband died or became disabled.
2. Yes, we are debt free.

The Jim Bob & Michelle Duggar Family
The Duggar's Most Frequently Asked Questions



How do you make a household of 19 people run smoothly? What is a typical day in your lives?


Our #1 goal is to lead our children to seek a close relationship with God & give Him every area of their lives. We purpose to start each day with a family Bible study, reading a chapter of Proverbs that corresponds with the day of the month. We have heart to heart talks with each of the older children regularly. We try to keep up with their attitudes & actions.

We desire for each child to develop a learning spirit & a servant's heart that looks for opportunities to serve others. It is a joy to see our children becoming best friends. If they can learn to treat their brothers and sisters like they want to be treated, then they can learn to get along with just about anyone along life's way.

Our daily routine begins with personal hygiene (get dressed, brush teeth, comb hair, etc...). Each older child has a younger buddy or two that they help. We eat breakfast & read Proverbs at 8:00a.m., then we "quick clean" the house (older child & their buddy work together to clean their jurisdictions).

Throughout the day we try to pickup as we go along, but naturally things tend toward disorder. So, it is a constant training process with "quick clean" times throughout the day. At 9:00a.m., the older children help their buddies with their studies in phonics, math, violin & piano (J-O-Y- Jesus first, Others second, & Yourself last!). Then the older children start their music & individual studies- math, English, spelling & typing.

We break for lunch at 12:00pm. Jill (age 17) prepares lunch & we all help cleanup. After lunch we work to finish individual studies.

At 1:30p.m. the little ones go down for naps (4 & under). Momma & older children are around the table at 2:00p.m. for Wisdom Booklet group studies - science, history, law, medicine - part of our ATIA curriculm. We work on one subject until we complete the study. We also review & memorize scripture, hymns & operational definitions of character qualities. The children especially enjoy this because they make up motions to help with memorization.

At 4:00p.m., we break from group study to complete individual studies, otherwise this is free time. We have dinner at 5:00p.m. Jana (Age 18) prepares dinner & everyone helps cleanup. We do another "quick clean" of the house after dinner & then have free time. Some may still be finishing up music, seeing we have to take turns on the pianos with 11 students! 8:00p.m.is snack time. Then we get ready for bed (baths, brush teeth, pick out clothes for next day).

9:00p.m. is Bible time with Daddy. This is probably our favorite time of day. Daddy reads the Bible & we discuss the passage together. We talk about the day & bring out points of how to apply what we have learned. We enjoy making up skits & acting out examples of right responses & wrong responses. Often our little ones will fall asleep as Daddy begins Bible time, still they love to be with us at this special time. Bedtime is 10:00p.m.

We have a master schedule of each family member's responsibilities displayed on our dining room wall. This idea came from the Maxwell's, "Managers of Their Homes". For each month, we also have individual daily checklists which cover schoolwork, chores, music lessons, & personal hygiene. These were designed by Daddy so we could see at a glance how each child is doing. These checklists enable us to keep our children accountable & also reward them accordingly.

We have goals, but then we have reality! We are learning to practice flexibility -Not setting our affections on ideas or plans which could be changed by God or others! Sometimes we have "Daddy Days" when Daddy overrides the schedule and takes the children out for family time, a field trip or a service project. We try to make each day fun. Everyday is an exciting adventure!

Matthew 6:33 says, "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you!"

II Corinthians 12:9 says," My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

__________________
Ephesians 5:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

I gave you credit for at least trying to seperate religiion from this discussion, but the problem is, it is too big a part of the story to do that. That goes for Religion, as well as the fact that clearly this is a result of a mental disorder.

It is no different then this

People Who Hoard Animals - Psychiatric Times

__________________
Argue with some..IGNORE the stupid

Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !

"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

So, you are equating having children with havinig animals?

__________________
Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

About The Duggar Family

Jim Bob & Michelle Duggar married July 21st, 1984. At that time, they chose to use the birth control pill. They thought, “We don’t want children right now. We can’t afford them. We want children in our timing, when we’re ready.” Four years later they decided to have their first child. Then, Michelle went back on the pill, but she conceived and had a miscarriage. At that point they talked with a Christian medical doctor and read the fine print in the contraceptives package. They found that while taking the pill you can get pregnant and then miscarry. They were grieved! They were Christians! They were pro-life! They realized that their selfish actions had taken the life of their child. They prayed and asked God to forgive them, and to teach them to love children like He loves children. They asked God to bless them with as many children as He saw fit in His timing. Right after that Michelle got pregnant with twins! To date they have been blessed with 17 children, (10 boys and 7 girls) Joshua, Jana & John-David (twins), Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Joy-Anna, Jedidiah & Jeremiah (twins), Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Johannah (and #18 due in January 2009!).

God has opened many doors for them to share that children are a blessing from the Lord! To date they have been featured on five Discovery Health & TLC documentaries entitled, “14 Children and Pregnant Again!”, “16 Children and Moving In!”, “Raising 16 Children!”,“On The Road With 16 Children!” & "Duggar's Big Family Album". They have appeared on numerous National and International TV shows including The Early Show, The Today Show, The View, Fox & Friends, Italian Public Television, KBS (Korean Broadcasting System), Discovery Home & Health (UK & Australia), Jimmy Kimmel Live, Fox News Network, CNN, MSNBC and others. They have done countless interviews with radio talk show hosts around the world including KROCK in LA, NPR, AP Radio, CBS Radio, FOX Radio and others. They have appeared in various magazine and newspapers including Parents, New York Times, Dallas Morning News, Chicago Tribune, Ladies Home Journal, People and many others. From the United States, Korea, Japan, China, India, New Zealand, Australia, France and Germany. The Duggar’s desire is to make Christ known and for others to see that the Bible is the owner’s manual for life.


As a family project the Duggars built a 7000 sqft. home debt free! Both Jim Bob and Michelle are licensed real estate agents.They often host and facilitate the Jim Sammon’s Financial Freedom Seminar. Jim Bob served in the Arkansas House of Representatives from 1999 to 2003 and was a candidate for the U.S. Senate in 2002.

__________________
Ephesians 5:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g