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View Poll Results: What are your views on Suicide
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Suicide is a personal choice
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Suicide should be an option, but be monitored to ensure the person is mentally healthy and informed
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Suicide should be legally and medically prohibited
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None of the above, but I think suicide is a viable option for some
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None of the above, but I don’t suicide is a viable option for anyone
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05-08-2008, 05:51 PM
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Suicide
-I was debating which section to put this in, hope we're all happy with it being here-
I was having this disscusion about suicide with some people. as of now the medical community says there is no need for suicide and anyone who disagrees is mentally ill. My old psyc teacher agreed, but comended me for saying I disagreed with him in front of our class.
I do know somewhere in Europe- Denmark perhaps-there is a 'suicide company'. the person gets two years of counseling and at the end if they are mentally heathy and sure, they are provided a hotel room, a last meal, and a poison to drink. their body is then taken away by the company and sent to what ever funeral parlor (or whatever place) they picked out.
I know many people express religious and personal concerns about elective suicide or even suicide due to an incurable illness. but I'm more curious to know if you think everyone who wants to die is ill or should be prevented from doing so?
(naturally its cool if you want to add in your personal views apart from the general question. but please answer it first. AND BE REALISTIC AND MATURE, DON'T JUST INSULT PEOPLE)
thanks! 
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05-08-2008, 05:59 PM
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05-08-2008, 06:00 PM
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2 years of counciling and the mentally and physically health individual still didn't realize that life is worth living, then I would say that councilor had an agenda to profit from their death.
As far as serious medical condtions, I am Pro-assisted suicide.
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05-08-2008, 06:02 PM
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If someone has an incurable illness and wants to end their life, thats fine. I have no problem with it. However if someone is trying to end their life out of self pity, then they should be required to sign all their worldly goods over to the state, then allowed to proceed. They're not worth saving.
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05-08-2008, 06:03 PM
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well they probbly ran into to many people like you
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05-08-2008, 06:05 PM
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Quote:
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well they probbly ran into to many people like you
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If someone is having a bad hour, day, year, they should be allowed to off themselves? Hello? There's family and friends left behind. Suicide is selfish.
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05-08-2008, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
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If someone is having a bad hour, day, year, they should be allowed to off themselves? Hello? There's family and friends left behind. Suicide is selfish.
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Then family and friends should be preventing the fool from acting out of self pity. If they unable to notice a problem exists, no one else is going to be able to see it either. Yes, suicide is selfish.
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05-08-2008, 06:20 PM
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Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes, and I can take or leave it if you please.
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05-08-2008, 06:39 PM
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I don't see why the state should discourage it, well maybe at least approved euthanasia. Suicide from a self pity point of view isn't something that should be encouraged. People have a right to a painless death I imagine.
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05-08-2008, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf_22
-I was debating which section to put this in, hope we're all happy with it being here-
I was having this disscusion about suicide with some people. as of now the medical community says there is no need for suicide and anyone who disagrees is mentally ill. My old psyc teacher agreed, but comended me for saying I disagreed with him in front of our class.
I do know somewhere in Europe- Denmark perhaps-there is a 'suicide company'. the person gets two years of counseling and at the end if they are mentally heathy and sure, they are provided a hotel room, a last meal, and a poison to drink. their body is then taken away by the company and sent to what ever funeral parlor (or whatever place) they picked out.
I know many people express religious and personal concerns about elective suicide or even suicide due to an incurable illness. but I'm more curious to know if you think everyone who wants to die is ill or should be prevented from doing so?
(naturally its cool if you want to add in your personal views apart from the general question. but please answer it first. AND BE REALISTIC AND MATURE, DON'T JUST INSULT PEOPLE)
thanks! 
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"wolf", I have no idea where you are going with this, but I will try to answer your question. Psychiatrist do not believe that "everyone who wants to die by suicide is ill." There is a term called "ego intact suicide" or "rational suicide" which is applied to persons not suffering from any major mental illness, and who sitll desire to suicide.
As for wither or not such people "should be prevented from suicide", that is purely a personal preference: I would suspect that most people believe that any form of suicide not related to a euthanasia type motive is wrong & should be prohibited: personally if major mental illness is not a contributing factor, then I suppose its a personal choice. [Problem is that suicide is rather irrevokable, and it may be very difficult to determine if some form of mental illness is not sequestered and influencing this decision.]
To me, there is an eternity to be dead: and only a speck of time to be alive, therefore, let life be for the short time it is there, life always brings new days & new circumstances: so if someone is so down that life appears not worth living, still hang on, it can only get better. ...pjwky
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