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View Poll Results: What are your views on Suicide
Suicide is a personal choice 10 47.62%
Suicide should be an option, but be monitored to ensure the person is mentally healthy and informed 4 19.05%
Suicide should be legally and medically prohibited 1 4.76%
None of the above, but I think suicide is a viable option for some 5 23.81%
None of the above, but I don’t suicide is a viable option for anyone 1 4.76%
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:51 PM
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Ok I’m better now; glad I didn’t pull the trigger.

Seriously some people think people who are in mental pain should not be allowed to suicide, while those who suffer from physical pain could. Who is to decide witch pain is worse? Both people suffer.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:01 PM
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I keep a bottle of barbs, just in case, and I couldn't give a damn less what the law says on the subject. I would only end my life if I were facing an incurable illness with great pain. I would also assist, if asked by a close friend.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:15 PM
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I think suicide is a personal choice. Assisted when ill, or on your own. None of us know what anothers limit is, and it's not up to us to demand they go on to meet our standards. Sometimes life is a struggle, and it's worth is up there somewhere with how much you can take.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:26 PM
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I have to say that it is a personal choice but I could never consider it unless I had an incurable illness and couldn't take care of myself.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:48 PM
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2 years of counciling and the mentally and physically health individual still didn't realize that life is worth living, then I would say that councilor had an agenda to profit from their death.

As far as serious medical condtions, I am Pro-assisted suicide.

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If someone is having a bad hour, day, year, they should be allowed to off themselves? Hello? There's family and friends left behind. Suicide is selfish.
isn't it selfish to keep someone alive who is suffering or hurting just do you can be spared pain?
I could see it being selfish both ways, but dislike that many have only noted one way.

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"wolf", I have no idea where you are going with this, but I will try to answer your question. Psychiatrist do not believe that "everyone who wants to die by suicide is ill." There is a term called "ego intact suicide" or "rational suicide" which is applied to persons not suffering from any major mental illness, and who sitll desire to suicide.perhaps I used incorrect wording.

As for wither or not such people "should be prevented from suicide", that is purely a personal preference: I would suspect that most people believe that any form of suicide not related to a euthanasia type motive is wrong & should be prohibited: personally if major mental illness is not a contributing factor, then I suppose its a personal choice. [Problem is that suicide is rather irrevokable, and it may be very difficult to determine if some form of mental illness is not sequestered and influencing this decision.]

To me, there is an eternity to be dead: and only a speck of time to be alive, therefore, let life be for the short time it is there, life always brings new days & new circumstances: so if someone is so down that life appears not worth living, still hang on, it can only get better. ...pjwky
I'd personally say I am pro-choice suicide. I do like the concept of therapy. you must be sure for a long time that you don't want to live. its not an easy choice to make nor is it one you can change.
I do think a time frame like this can help when dealing with people who suffer from some mood disorder but are on medicine. if their meds are working and they still don't want to live- its not about their chemical imbalance, but there person feelings.

I think sometimes life just isn't good for everyone. sometimes there is nothing that is worth it. I see life as a challege with rewards. if your rewards aren't worth the challege, why do it? why keep living?
and if you no longer care for the rewards, no longer value life, don't find solace in the good aprts of life- there is good chance life isn't worth it for you any longer.

I like conversing about this. good opinions. mostly good comments. please countinue
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Wolf,

Are you contemplating suicide?
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:32 PM
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Fuck them. If they want to die let them, help them.

There's too many people on this planet anyway.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:47 PM
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:58 PM
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If anyone profess a belief in God, Christianity, or the afterlife of eternity, a person has no more right to take his/her own life than do they have any right to take another's. Simply because our life does not belong to us according to the teachings of God. Thus any pain that person must endure in this physical life is nothing in comparison to eternity separated from the presence and love of God. "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, AND YOU ARE NOT YOUR OWN? For you were bought for a price, therefore GLORIFY GOD in your body and spirit, which are Gods." -- l Cor 6:19-20

Another mistake is deciding that suicide is the only solution, sense when? It's true not all alternatives are pleasant, but there is always a choice to live. Anyone contemplating suicide has the choice to face their problems head on to find another solution. "No temptation has overtaken you except is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it." -- l Cor. 10:13. Suicide is an attempt to escape a "perceived" problem, but it never really solves the problem it merely leaves it for others to deal with, in a most cowardly fashion. Suicide is not based upon bravery, but cowardliness is inversely demonstrated. Why should anyone be phrased for being a coward? "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murders (and suicide is nothing short of murder), sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." -- Rev. 20:8

These are the religious concerns, but of course if one has no faith, they have no fear of God....at least while they are alive. {LVCOC} BD
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:53 PM
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Suicide is a result of depression. Depression has external triggers set by years of behaiviral patterns. Most frequently ridicule by others set these emotions of inadequacy into the persona of the person. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can along with medication change the person.
If you are one of those who don't much give a shit about a person with suicide thoughts perhaps you are part of the problem!
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