You bet I am upset with liberals. Just look at what the liberal Bush has done. Now Obama and Clinton are promising us 4 more years, only more so, of Bush's policies.

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You don't have to be crazy to be a liberal, but it helps.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." JFK

Ask not was you can for your country, ask what your country can do for you. Obama Platform

That's ludicrous. The floodgates of greed were opened and we were flooded. So you blame the floodgates and not the flood?

So do you blame the fact that abortions happen on the fact that they were once illegal? Is the former illegality of it to blame?

You're not making any sense.

Is that a fact? 40% of the oil we use comes from the united states, oh misinformed one. Drilling in Texas, Louisiana, California, Oklahoma and YES Alaska provides nearly half of our crude. Add to that about 10 percent each from Mexico and Canada and your little theory is (again) a failure. The myth that "tree hugging liberals" are blocking drilling for oil in the united states is hereby debunked.

The import of oil serves to widen the profit margin of "big oil", just like shipping our manufacturing jobs overseas widens the profit margins of Nike. We're paying more for oil because OPEC is squeezing us, thanks to the instability GW and GHW bush brought to the region and because THEY CAN ALL COLLECTIVELY RAISE PRICES. There IS no sense of competition. Antitrust laws should be kicking in, but nobody is going to enforce them. They have us "over a barrel" and since they own both political parties, the government will not step in.

Google "where does our oil come from" and use that reading thing for more than ann coulter "books" and scribblings on airport bathroom glory hole stalls.

The wars in iraq and afghanistan are not preventing terrorist attacks. What's the logic of that? The wars are one GIANT terror attack going on daily for 5 years straight. That's REAL! There were no terror attacks on american soil for 8 years prior to bush's presidency (OKC bombing), and that happened 2 years after the LAST boondogle in iraq.

Shoving our problems onto other nations is not a solution, that's just prolonging and exascerbating the problem. That's the bush way, make it the next guy's problem. Somehow that's okay with you? Well fortunately your point of view is not only MARGINALIZED politically, but it's now a cultural punchline.

This is why the Republican party is over. You guys flew too close to the sun with wings made of stupid.

Clearly a decade of rule by the neoconservatives has been the downfall of this country. I'm not convinced the democrats are going to save us, but I know the ones who got us into this mess are back to being the shrill minority at least!

yeah bush IS liberal with a lot of things. He's liberal with his misuse of his power, liberal with how he spends our money..

Obama .. clinton.. just more of the same. From the people who brought you war and recession comes... THE NEXT PRESIDENT. sigh.

Well KP, we will just have to see how well Demand Side Economics under the democrats will replace and correct all the damage caused by 20 years Republican Supply Side Economics.

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No it makes perfect sense Mate---had the market never been regulated to begin with---there would have never been the flood--hence no need for floodgates.

It seems you agree with the idea of the government holding your wallet for you...my only question is where does it stop. You want the government holding your wallet in regards to you buying a house....should the government also hold your wallet when you buy a car---or maybe when people buy stocks---ect ect.

Why isnt the government cracking down on that blackjack dealer that took my money last weekend??

And I suppose your satisfied with IMPORTING 60%?? ANWR is a perfect example for you---millions of acres of lifeless dessert--that has been banned from drilling time after time....by your innocent TREE HUGGING LIBERALS!

And how does a market bring about competition???....by growing the market and increasing supply...not by bending over to liberal government and AlGore's congregation.

Mate all of your oil arguments have already been acknowledged and then destroyed...if you wish to view the carnage.....$103 Oil--Right on Democrats!!

WTC bombings in 1993??---seven years before Bush--maybe we should have eliminated the threat then...rather than liberally turning the other cheek....what did liberal foreign policy get us???......9/11

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We should have stayed out of Afghanastan---we should have bent over and turned the other cheek...its the liberal way.

Your isolationist views are indeed the punchline.

Say that as you will...if anything can be learned about liberalism...once a country experiences the lunacy that is liberalism...they go running back to conservatism (See France)

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I see, so everything can be twisted around be the "liberals" fault if you ignore reason and play liberally with the truth.

I think I agree with most of the posters on that "$103 Oil.." thread who seem to agree that you were dropped on your head at some point. What was the point of that thread, that the minority democrats were to blame for all of bush's failures?

FAIL.

Just as the last two years of Dimocant failures are the fault of the minority Republicans.

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If you want change stop electing "liberal: democrats and "radical" Republicans. Find and support true Conservatives; those who believe in fiscal responsibilities, individual accountability, and a smaller government, with less control of your daily life.

If it were not for "Liberals' this country would still be a Britsh colony.

The right wingers of the day, were British loyalists, and scorned to founders for opposing the crown

Later, they comited treason and tried to split the nation

They later almost destroyed thye US economy, and free markiet capitalism itself, and it took FDR and the new daal to save it

Still later, the tried to engage the Nazis (Prescot Bush for example) and profit from the rise of facism nin Europe, and the two most liberal administrations in US history, fought and won WW2

Were it not for Liberals, we would be a segrigated 3rd wold country with sweat shops, child labor, subjigated women, an infant mortality rate seen in sub sahren Africa and a life expectancy one might expect to see in the developing nations of the world in the 1960s

Now, once again, the left is going to have to fix the damage caused by the reactionary hate mongering right

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Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !

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U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress - 2nd Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate


Vote Summary

Question: On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114 )
Vote Number: 237 Vote Date: October 11, 2002, 12:50 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Joint Resolution Passed
Measure Number: H.J.Res. 114
Measure Title: A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
Vote Counts: YEAs 77
NAYs 23
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carnahan (D-MO), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Nay
Cleland (D-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Nay
Corzine (D-NJ), Nay
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Nay
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Edwards (D-NC), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Nay
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Yea
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchinson (R-AR), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Miller (D-GA), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thompson (R-TN), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Torricelli (D-NJ), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---77
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---23
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chafee (R-RI)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (D-FL)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped by Home State Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Alaska: Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas: Hutchinson (R-AR), Yea Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Allard (R-CO), Yea Campbell (R-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Graham (D-FL), Nay Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Georgia: Cleland (D-GA), Yea Miller (D-GA), Yea
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Nay Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Idaho: Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Nay Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Kentucky: Bunning (R-KY), Yea McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Louisiana: Breaux (D-LA), Yea Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Nay Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Nay Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Minnesota: Dayton (D-MN), Nay Wellstone (D-MN), Nay
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Yea Lott (R-MS), Yea
Missouri: Bond (R-MO), Yea Carnahan (D-MO), Yea
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Burns (R-MT), Yea
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada: Ensign (R-NV), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire: Gregg (R-NH), Yea Smith (R-NH), Yea
New Jersey: Corzine (D-NJ), Nay Torricelli (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Domenici (R-NM), Yea
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Edwards (D-NC), Yea Helms (R-NC), Yea
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Nay Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma: Inhofe (R-OK), Yea Nickles (R-OK), Yea
Oregon: Smith (R-OR), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay
Pennsylvania: Santorum (R-PA), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Nay Reed (D-RI), Nay
South Carolina: Hollings (D-SC), Yea Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Daschle (D-SD), Yea Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Tennessee: Frist (R-TN), Yea Thompson (R-TN), Yea
Texas: Gramm (R-TX), Yea Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Utah: Bennett (R-UT), Yea Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Nay Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Virginia: Allen (R-VA), Yea Warner (R-VA), Yea
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Nay
West Virginia: Byrd (D-WV), Nay Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Enzi (R-WY), Yea Thomas (R-WY), Yea

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