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05-04-2008, 10:15 PM
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The statement, called "An Evangelical Manifesto," condemns Christians on the right and left for "using faith" to express political views without regard to the truth of the Bible
Hey Crowley, this describes Billy perfectly.
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05-04-2008, 10:16 PM
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Yeah.
It's all over the place.
MegaChurch has had an Epiphany, and wan't all you idiots to STFU so the Church might survive.
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05-04-2008, 10:25 PM
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JesusCamp would do you good, DOmmy...
You're much too militant.
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05-04-2008, 10:25 PM
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Yeah.
It's all over the place.
MegaChurch has had an Epiphany, and wan't all you idiots to STFU so the Church might survive.
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It really is laughable and pathetic, that many of the mindless lemmings will now fall in line too.
Thats what they do, they fall in lockstep with any thug who is waving a neo nazi Christo facsist banner
The good news is, there are no longer enough of them to make a difference
The good guys win...again
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05-04-2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback
You are either:
1 More naive then one can imagine
2. A closet Christo fascist trying to save face
3 A person who has lived in a cave since 1980
4 A hopeless and spineless "Moderate extremeist"
5 some combination of somke of the above
What is very clear clear, is that you are not too Perceptive.
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Just from reading your silly blog and your childish posts I am willing to bet the following:
1 I am more educated than you
2 I am more successful than you
3 I am more wordly than you
4 I have been an ex-pat in more countries than you have
5 I have done high level business with more CEOs in more countries than you and
6 I have donated more time and money to disadvantaged youth in the US in just the last 24 months than you probably have for the youth in any country in your entire life
So save your chest pounding about how naive and perceptive I am because I can tell from your "blog" that you have no depth in what you say. You are just like every other idealogue...mindless and loud.
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If what you say is true, what would have been the need for the leaders of the Xian right to make the announcement found in the link I posted in the original post…hummmm ? By their own admission, they overplayed their hand, and were too candid about their private agenda
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Your "evidence" says some leaders think the evangelical right has strayed from the true meaning of their teachings and some don't think that is the case. Wow...that is truly amazing. Now that I have read this revolutionary piece I will now conclude that majority of Christian conservatives want to bomb abortion clinics and that every progressive is in favor of polygamy.
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Finally, let me help you out.
There is nothing constructive about Dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator, to placate and appease mouth breathing racist knuckled draggers, who would ban Hemmingway, put cloths on the subjects of Rubin painting , who think AIDS is bad, but condoms are worse, that PBS is pornography,and who think the Constitutionh should be reploaced by the book Of revelations
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All Christian conservatives do this??? Really. All evangelical Christians think this??? So your solution is to just generalize and insult every Christian conservative because you have an issue with the far right. I can see how that isn't lowering everything to the lowest common denominator. Nice generalizations...you really have demonstrated your depth of knowledge on this subject. I can't wait to read your blog in the future. LOL. Coming to the realization that people on different sides can disagree on topics and still be reasonable is much harder to do than it is to just insult anyone who doesn't agree with you. I have been there and while it is safer to sit around with people who think just like you and imagine that everyone on the other side is a evil, deceptive and bigoted person it isnt' really productive. And futhermore you just become like the people you are supposedly railing against.
Let me help you out. When you can prove that the majority of Christian conservatives think this way then I will consider your points. Until then I will lump you with all those far right people that I think are morons. Just becuase you are on the left it doesn't make you any different. Far left stupidity = Far right stupidity...
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05-05-2008, 08:28 AM
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Just from reading your silly blog and your childish posts I am willing to bet the following:
1 I am more educated than you
2 I am more successful than you
3 I am more wordly than you
4 I have been an ex-pat in more countries than you have
5 I have done high level business with more CEOs in more countries than you and
6 I have donated more time and money to disadvantaged youth in the US in just the last 24 months than you probably have for the youth in any country in your entire life
So save your chest pounding about how naive and perceptive I am because I can tell from your "blog" that you have no depth in what you say. You are just like every other idealogue...mindless and loud.
Your "evidence" says some leaders think the evangelical right has strayed from the true meaning of their teachings and some don't think that is the case. Wow...that is truly amazing. Now that I have read this revolutionary piece I will now conclude that majority of Christian conservatives want to bomb abortion clinics and that every progressive is in favor of polygamy.
All Christian conservatives do this??? Really. All evangelical Christians think this??? So your solution is to just generalize and insult every Christian conservative because you have an issue with the far right. I can see how that isn't lowering everything to the lowest common denominator. Nice generalizations...you really have demonstrated your depth of knowledge on this subject. I can't wait to read your blog in the future. LOL. Coming to the realization that people on different sides can disagree on topics and still be reasonable is much harder to do than it is to just insult anyone who doesn't agree with you. I have been there and while it is safer to sit around with people who think just like you and imagine that everyone on the other side is a evil, deceptive and bigoted person it isnt' really productive. And futhermore you just become like the people you are supposedly railing against.
Let me help you out. When you can prove that the majority of Christian conservatives think this way then I will consider your points. Until then I will lump you with all those far right people that I think are morons. Just becuase you are on the left it doesn't make you any different. Far left stupidity = Far right stupidity...
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It didn't take you long to figure her out. She makes the same uneducated rants under multiple screen names because she needs someone to support her.
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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback
It really is laughable and pathetic, that many of the mindless lemmings will now fall in line too.
Thats what they do, they fall in lockstep with any thug who is waving a neo nazi Christo facsist banner
The good news is, there are no longer enough of them to make a difference
The good guys win...again
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Good guys win? You mean like in 2000 and 2004? Plus, the way the Dems are imploding don't count out 2008 either.
Your posting shows that you don't really have a true understanding of very much at all.
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05-05-2008, 08:59 AM
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<snip> Afterward, a frightening thought shot through my head. It occurred to me that over the past decades, any number of our prominent political leaders (from Jimmy Carter to Chuck Colson to W himself) had boasted publicly of their born-again experiences, broadcasting to Middle America an understanding of their personal relationships with God. But whereas once these conversions were humble things -- Billy Graham whispering and putting his hand on W's shoulder in Kennebunkport, or even (in the case of Tom DeLay) a flash of recognition while watching a televangelist program -- the modern version might very easily be this completely batshit holy-vomitus/demon-exorcism deal. The thought that any politician could claim this kind of experience and not be immediately disqualified from public service seemed utterly terrifying.
An Atheist Goes Undercover to Join the Flock of Mad Pastor John Hagee | Rights and Liberties | AlterNet
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05-05-2008, 04:38 PM
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Just from reading your silly blog and your childish posts I am willing to bet the following:
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1 I am more educated than you
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LAUGHABLE
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2 I am more successful than you
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EVEN MORE LAUGHABLE
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3 I am more wordly than you
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A JOKE
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4 I have been an ex-pat in more countries than you have
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DOUBT IT
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5 I have done high level business with more CEOs in more countries than you and
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i CAN SAY WITH 100% CONFIDENCE THIS IS A PIPE DREAM ON YOUR PART
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6 I have donated more time and money to disadvantaged youth in the US in just the last 24 months than you probably have for the youth in any country in your entire life
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AGAIN. I CAN SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY, YOU ARE WRONG
LOL...You really need to
1. Know something about a person before you assume
2 get meds for your delusions
3 Recognize whan,as in this case, you are addressing a better
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So save your chest pounding about how naive and perceptive I am because I can tell from your "blog" that you have no depth in what you say. You are just like every other idealogue...mindless and loud.
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I was actually being kind when I said "naive". Your silly rose colored prospectives are child like and ignorant...either that, or as i said, you are a whacko fundy trying to save face
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Your "evidence" says some leaders think the evangelical right has strayed from the true meaning of their teachings and some don't think that is the case. Wow...that is truly amazing. Now that I have read this revolutionary piece I will now conclude that majority of Christian conservatives want to bomb abortion clinics and that every progressive is in favor of polygamy.
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Nope..not what the story says (reading comprehension is clearly not your strong point)...It says that their message has “become too political”, meaning they need to alter the public agenda
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All Christian conservatives do this??? Really. All evangelical Christians think this??? So your solution is to just generalize and insult every Christian conservative because you have an issue with the far right. I can see how that isn't lowering everything to the lowest common denominator. Nice generalizations...you really have demonstrated your depth of knowledge on this subject. I can't wait to read your blog in the future. LOL. Coming to the realization that people on different sides can disagree on topics and still be reasonable is much harder to do than it is to just insult anyone who doesn't agree with you. I have been there and while it is safer to sit around with people who think just like you and imagine that everyone on the other side is a evil, deceptive and bigoted person it isnt' really productive. And futhermore you just become like the people you are supposedly railing against.
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Again, you are terminally naive, terminally ignorant, or desperate to be the top PR man for the Xian right
The only thing that comes close to matching your naiveté, and or laughable spin is you ability to create poorly constructed straw men
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Let me help you out. When you can prove that the majority of Christian conservatives think this way then I will consider your points. Until then I will lump you with all those far right people that I think are morons. Just becuase you are on the left it doesn't make you any different. Far left stupidity = Far right stupidity...
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Hummm...I have to admit, still not sure if you are a Fundy trying to save face and spin your defeat into a non issue, or if you are a starry eyed kook who lives in the land of red white and blue butterflies, and where people who chain themselves to the door of Planned Parenthood, and who want to burn books and ban PBS are “just plain folks” who want what’s best for America
The good news for me is….It really makes no difference
Either way, as I stated in my original post. you lose
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