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05-08-2008, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev
If there is no evidence of gouging and windfall profits then why are Obama and Clinton lying about it?
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who cares? doesn't has anything to do with the issues at hand. Pull your head out of your ass
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05-08-2008, 11:06 AM
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Dual citizenry is allot harder to obtain for Others then Israelis. Its pretty much a given with no question asked for Those pigs.
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Prove it, Hitler!
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05-08-2008, 12:27 PM
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"No I said that report does not count the amount of profit gained by refusing to use other sources of energy, don't put words in my mouth that amounts to trillons of dollars and you never see even a word about it in the reports. You believe the report of the enemy? Of course they are gonna lie to you. You really are guillible" --Carson
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Fool, I hate all politicians, the truth has nothing to do with politics
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Originally Posted by Carson
who cares? doesn't has anything to do with the issues at hand. Pull your head out of your ass
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Most of Obama's commercials in the last week for the election in Nc was about this. Obama kept attacking Hillary on her plan. So it is clearly a HUGE issue and played an important role in Obama's double digit win.
If you are too stupid to realize that the truth of the matter and the importance of the manner then I hope you are planning on not voting. If you think that Exxon is your enemy then you need serious professional help. There are many drugs that can help you. If you are saying that someone who lies to you is your enemy then you might have a point.
Is Obama lying about gouging and windfall profits? Yes, the truth does not help Obama so he lies. Is Obama using fear of a company making 40 billion in profit to drive his campaign? Of course. I notice that extreme Obamites like Rasta, Pj, Upton, etc avoid discussing Obama's lies about big oil and avoid discussing Obama's demagouging of energy.
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05-08-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev
"No I said that report does not count the amount of profit gained by refusing to use other sources of energy, don't put words in my mouth that amounts to trillons of dollars and you never see even a word about it in the reports. You believe the report of the enemy? Of course they are gonna lie to you. You really are guillible" --Carson
Most of Obama's commercials in the last week for the election in Nc was about this. Obama kept attacking Hillary on her plan. So it is clearly a HUGE issue and played an important role in Obama's double digit win. The issue is important, Hillary and Obama are not and have absolutely no sway on this issue. You talking about them is totally irrelevant
If you are too stupid to realize that the truth of the matter and the importance of the manner then I hope you are planning on not voting. Be happy then I'm not voting and your the fool for thinking voting matters If you think that Exxon is your enemy then you need serious professional help. If you think oil companies are not the problem you are the one living in some alternative fantasy world. There are many drugs that can help you. If you are saying that someone who lies to you is your enemy then you might have a point. Thats exactly what I'm saying
Is Obama lying about gouging and windfall profits? Yes, the truth does not help Obama so he lies. Is Obama using fear of a company making 40 billion in profit to drive his campaign? Of course. I notice that extreme Obamites like Rasta, Pj, Upton, etc avoid discussing Obama's lies about big oil and avoid discussing Obama's demagouging of energy.
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They probaly do that because it is irrelevant. Do you think the board of directors at a big oil company give a fuck about Obama or his policies? Shit no.
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05-08-2008, 08:02 PM
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Obama says he doesn't take money from lobbists who rigg the system.
nobody does it's illegal.
He will however take large sums from oil execs personally.
Hmmm.
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05-08-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carson
They probaly do that because it is irrelevant. Do you think the board of directors at a big oil company give a fuck about Obama or his policies? Shit no.
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"The issue is important, Hillary and Obama are not and have absolutely no sway on this issue. You talking about them is totally irrelevant
Be happy then I'm not voting and your the fool for thinking voting matters
If you think oil companies are not the problem you are the one living in some alternative fantasy world.
Thats exactly what I'm saying"
We, the People, need to be concerned about what Obama would do if he is elected. It is vital that people, escpecially the Obamites stop and think about what Obama is promising to do and the consequences of the actions. It is vital to discuss the blatant lies by Obama. It is vital to talk about Obama promising to add BILLIONS in new taxes on gasoline.
You are correct that you do not matter. If you do not vote you are less than nothing. I would say you are less than nothing, but I would hate to overstate your importance.
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05-08-2008, 08:10 PM
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40 billion is a lot of money. But at 10% they are hardly turning a huge profit.
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Hint: It ain't the percentage, it's the AMOUNT. You can't stick percentages in your wallet. Another hint: $40 billion IS a lot of money.
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05-08-2008, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Virgil Kaine
Obama says he doesn't take money from lobbists who rigg the system.
nobody does it's illegal.
He will however take large sums from oil execs personally.
Hmmm.
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Obama has indeed taken money from the oil execs. It goes to show that Obama is a lying politicians who is willing to make outlandish promises to scare votes his way.
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05-08-2008, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
Hint: It ain't the percentage, it's the AMOUNT. You can't stick percentages in your wallet. Another hint: $40 billion IS a lot of money.
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What is the dollar amount you would cap a business at? 10 billion, 20, 30 billion?
The sheer volume of dollars invested to make the 40 billion should make the 40 billion made for the investors acceptable. Maybe you would like to hit all the 401k plans with windfall profits as well?
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Last edited by kgpoolerev; 05-08-2008 at 08:17 PM.
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05-09-2008, 10:04 AM
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What is the dollar amount you would cap a business at? 10 billion, 20, 30 billion?
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>>>Depends on the number of Gulfstream IVs the execs can afford. We'd have to cap profits after 20 Gulfstreams are in the hangar.
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