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Old 08-25-2006, 02:54 PM
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Smile What is the worse genocide, ABORTION or GUN CONTROL?

Since RvW only 43,600,000 someodd living fetuses have been murdered for economic convieniance or male domination resistance. (a 40 year span)

Since WW1 gun control and pacifism have accounted for 55.6 million murders of mostly civilian populations. (over a nearly 90 year span)

Of course the HORROR FACTOR between fetuses, who don't feel pain (yeah right) but are mostly unaware of death because they didn't get to experience life and the civilian victims of pacifist gun controll usually suffer greatly through one sided armed conflict and by the majority are mostly women and children has to figure into the disparity of Death over time period, so taking that into account, what is the worst, ore even better, what is the least worst type of GENOCIDE????

Adults killing each other over political, economic or religius beliefs,
Or Mothers killing off the future of humanity?


Just look again and you will see NO DIFFERENCE.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:00 PM
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Since RvW only 43,600,000 someodd living fetuses have been murdered for economic convieniance or male domination resistance. (a 40 year span)

Economic convenience or male domination resistance? What?

Since WW1 gun control and pacifism have accounted for 55.6 million murders of mostly civilian populations. (over a nearly 90 year span)

In the US? How did gun control get them killed? And by whom? Your lack of support is undermining whatever it is you are trying to say.

Of course the HORROR FACTOR between fetuses, who don't feel pain (yeah right) but are mostly unaware of death because they didn't get to experience life and the civilian victims of pacifist gun controll usually suffer greatly through one sided armed conflict and by the majority are mostly women and children has to figure into the disparity of Death over time period, so taking that into account, what is the worst, ore even better, what is the least worst type of GENOCIDE????

Is there a point to asking us to decide which is better? Which is better? Being killed by gunshot, fire, drowning, knife attack? You are still dead.

Adults killing each other over political, economic or religius beliefs,
Or Mothers killing off the future of humanity?

Just look again and you will see NO DIFFERENCE.
Do you have a point to make?
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:29 PM
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My point is Genocide is Genocide.
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:30 PM
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Be carefull of what you support, it may have eternal consequences.
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Old 08-25-2006, 09:59 PM
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Neither is genocide. There term does not apply here. Mass murder might, but not genocide. Genocide is the attempt to exterminate a particular genotype, to attempt to wipe out a race. But abortion isn't gene specific.

Gun control was gene specific when it was first used in the US. The earliest gun ownership laws forbade Blacks and Indians from having guns.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:22 PM
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You are making some very wide generalizations about gun control/pacifism and how things get handled by a specific government.

I saw this from another thread and let me take one instance that you are trying to site. Are you thinking about the mass killings in Cambodia circa 1975-1979? Before I spend any time debating this...are you considering the take over by the Khmer Rouge in this idea of gun control?
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Old 08-26-2006, 01:45 AM
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Gun control deaths since ww1

Ottoman 1915-17 Armenians 1-1.5 Mil. 1866 Art. 166,
Turky Penal Code

Soviet 1929-53 Anti-Comm. 20 Million 1929 Art. 128,
Union Anti-Stal. Penal Code

Nazi 1933-45 Jews, 13 Million 1928 Law on Fire-
Germany Anti-Nazis, arms & Ammun.
& occupied Gypsies April 12,
Europe Weapons Law,
March 18

China 1948-52 Anti- 20 Million 1935 Arts. 186 & 7
Communists Penal Code.
1966- Pro-Reform
1976 Group

Guatemala 1960-81 Mayan 100,000 1871 Decree #36
Indians 1964 Decree #283

Uganda 1971-79 Christians, 300,000 1955 Firearms Ord.
Pol. Rivals 1970 Firearms Act

Cambodia 1975-79 Educated 1 Million 1956 Arts. 322-328,
Persons Penal Code

TOTAL VICTIMS: 55.9 MILLION

Abortion deaths, when taken as percentages of white vs. black abortions gets sticky as to being gene specific. Many more black babies have been aborted in the US as a percentage of their base population, they have aborted what amounts to a devastating 25% of their present population THAT AMOUNTS TO A SELF INFLICTED GENOCIDE.
White americans have only aborted enough to reach a nearly zero population growth (Not healthy for a competing species)
While the Germans abort more than are bering born. (a sure sign of a dying or stressed race)
While the hispanics population growth is in a boom raking in the bucks taking care of the old and dying US white race.

YES Abortion IS Genocide, especially when you take into account the origion of planned parenhood by Margaret Sangor, a devout racist who founded Planned Parenthood for the specific reason of sterilizing the blacks. Her mission was accomplished she convinced the blacks to be free of their unwanted burdens and responsabilities of childcare through Abortion, and they BOUGHT IT! Too Bad her own race bought the same story too. Isn't it IRONIC. kinda like rain on your wedding day or a free ride when you've already paid.
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Old 08-26-2006, 02:06 AM
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Gun control deaths since ww1

Cambodia 1975-79 Educated 1 Million 1956 Arts. 322-328,
Persons Penal Code
Whoa...backup...

Explain the history of Cambodia/Prince Sihanouk/Pol Pot/the Khmer Rouge and how the insuing 1975-1979 genocide was SPECIFICALLY and ABSOLUTELY caused by gun control just after the long and drawn out Vietnam conflict destablization of Indochina? My debating and arguing compadre, you must have some incredible facts to explain this...WOW..go for it!!! Do this one first and then we can go to the next...and then next...and then next on your list.

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Old 08-26-2006, 07:13 AM
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Neither is genocide. There term does not apply here. Mass murder might, but not genocide. Genocide is the attempt to exterminate a particular genotype, to attempt to wipe out a race. But abortion isn't gene specific.

Gun control was gene specific when it was first used in the US. The earliest gun ownership laws forbade Blacks and Indians from having guns.
Thanks. You beat me to the clarification. We are not at liberty to change the definitions of words.
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Old 08-26-2006, 07:16 AM
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Gun control deaths since ww1

Ottoman 1915-17 Armenians 1-1.5 Mil. 1866 Art. 166,
Turky Penal Code

Soviet 1929-53 Anti-Comm. 20 Million 1929 Art. 128,
Union Anti-Stal. Penal Code

Nazi 1933-45 Jews, 13 Million 1928 Law on Fire-
Germany Anti-Nazis, arms & Ammun.
& occupied Gypsies April 12,
Europe Weapons Law,
March 18

China 1948-52 Anti- 20 Million 1935 Arts. 186 & 7
Communists Penal Code.
1966- Pro-Reform
1976 Group

Guatemala 1960-81 Mayan 100,000 1871 Decree #36
Indians 1964 Decree #283

Uganda 1971-79 Christians, 300,000 1955 Firearms Ord.
Pol. Rivals 1970 Firearms Act

Cambodia 1975-79 Educated 1 Million 1956 Arts. 322-328,
Persons Penal Code

TOTAL VICTIMS: 55.9 MILLION
Not sure of the point here, but would you feel better if they were being thrown out of windows?
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