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Old 06-21-2008, 12:29 PM
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hurricane Katrina was the excuse to raise the gas from about 1.45 per gallon to $3.00 per gallon. It has been a year since Katrina has came and gone Why are we still paying $3 for a gallon of gas and why do we accept paying that much for gas?
now it is $4
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:37 PM
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infaltion and the devaluation of the dollar. its the same reason we went to war. to force countries to use our shrinking and devaluating dollar.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:54 PM
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Real simple. People still pay whatever it costs. Don't fault the oil companies. If I could sell a glass of lemonade for $2 instead of .50 cents why wouldn't I?
False. Its been a very well proven thing that a supply/demand approach to the oil market DOES NOT REFLECT HOW IT WORKS. Its been said by economists, oil men, congressmen. This is not free trade, this is not equally accessible commodities. Gas costs have not gone up enough to account for the oil spikes. Gas isn't being produced less today than it was two years ago, in fact its the opposite. Global demand is deceasing, Brazil's energy is 40% ethanol from 0% only three years ago. Europeans and Americans are driving less, with more fuel efficient vehicle. Its all based on SPECULATION. The speculative market is where Gas gets fucked up.

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May I remind you that we are in a Free Market economy meaning the government can't do a thing about it. The only claim they could have is that it's a strategic resource and I think that would hardly apply in this situation. To have the government regulate the prices would be to undercut our free market.
No, we don't live in a free market. Thats gotta be one of the most uninformed economic observations I've ever heard. You realize we put a tax on imports. That we bail out companies. I think you've confused NAFTA, the NORTH AMERICAN Free Trade with world free trade, which does not exist in the least.
The government doesn't need to regulate prices though, I agree, they need to regulate the entire business. Its an incredibly dangerous and powerful position to be an oil man, a power one can have even over a country of our strength. We need to regulate refinement, mandate energy-saving laws, legalize the creation of home made biodeisel converters and other new technologies the oil companies have paid millions to lobbyists to make illegal.
The car companies say they're more than ready for any new type of energy. Clearly Americans are ready. We have the technology, will, money, supply, demand, all thats there. Except the oil company stands in the way. Is that Free Trade? no, its not asshole.

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The answer to both issues is the same, "buy fake". Encourage E85.........it is the future, most don't encourage E85 yet as oil is still too cheap.
I say bring on $10 per gallon for gas, then people will reduce the size of vehicles and look to corn!
Corn is not the answer. The production of corn ethanol requires excessive pollution akin to petroleum. Sugar Cane fields can be used to produce sugar canes, the waste, all the brush and leaves of the cane left over, can be converted into ethanol 85 as well, but with a much cleaner burn. It also will have the added bonus of dramatically increasing the amount of sugar in the world. What Would Willy Wonka do?
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:57 PM
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You may be surprised to find out that your American car will already use E-85 gas. GM and Ford have both been making cars that will take E-85 for several years now. The only real modifications that have to be made for a car to run on E-85 is that some metal parts have to be replaced with plastic parts because alcohol is corrosive, and these cars will still run regular gasoline.

I found out this last year that my '00 Chevy S-10 will run on E-85. You can look up on the GM website the 8th letter of the VIN to see if your car will run on E-85.
interesting.

all diesel engines are convertible to biodiesel. on the bad side, only 1 in every 100 gas pumps will be able to fill you up. good news, some vegetable oil from your local diner should keep you going.
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