Sovereignty.


Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the Columbia University audience that homosexuality didn't exist in Iran, and was in fact a "phenomenon". His statement was met by laughter.

Hey, read the following article by Human Rights News, that reveals not only that homosexuals exist in Iran-just like everywhere else in the world, but they are being jailed, tortured, and executed just for being homosexual.

Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct (Human Rights Watch, 22-11-2005)

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad then spoke at the United Nations on September 25, 2007. He spoke with eloquent sarcasm marked with blatant hypocracy. Here is some of what Ahmadinejad said at the United Nations:

" ...Mr. Ahmadinejad devoted much of his speech to criticism of “certain powers,” which he said were responsible for many of the world’s problems. These powers routinely breached human rights despite claiming to be exclusive advocates of those rights; aggressively attacked indigenous cultures and national values; promoted lewdness and violence; perpetuated gross economic imbalances between countries; violated rules of international law and disrespected their global commitments; and escalated the arms race.
Mr. Ahmadinejad warned these countries “to learn from history and their actions,” saying they had lost the competence to lead the planet, and that international relations would soon change.
“The era of darkness will end, prisoners will return home, the occupied lands will be freed, Palestine and Iraq will be liberated from the dominion of the occupiers, and the people of America and Europe will be free of the pressure exerted by the Zionists.
“The tender-hearted and humanity-loving governments will replace the aggressive and domineering ones. Human dignity will be regained. The pleasing aroma of justice will permeate the world, and people will live together in a brotherly and affectionate manner.” (bull )

He announced that Iran would help establish the “Coalition for Peace,” which he described as “a front of fraternity, amity and sustainable peace based on monotheism and justice...”
You can get the full article at:
Iranian President tells General Assembly that nuclear issue is now closed

Now, if Ahmadinejad's politically tired assed speech at the United Nations wasn't hypocracy, then there's no such thing as hypocracy. He lied to Columbia University concerning if homosexuals existed in Iran, then he strolls over to the United Nations under thick security so that no one could shoot his pathetic, lying ass, and tries to gain sympathy from the U.N. audience with a hypocritical speech about love and brotherhood. Yet, homosexuals, and anyone considered to be immoral inside of Iran, are regularly jailed, tortured, put to death, or run out of the country. Yet, Ahmadinejad "arrogantly" stood before the United Nations like a fucking wolf in sheep's clothing, and stated that, "the tender-hearted and humanity-loving governments will replace the aggressive and domineering ones..." He even was foolish enough to announce that Iran would help establish the "coalition for peace", which Ahmadinejad called "a front of fraternity, amity and sustainable peace based on monotheism and justice." What complete hypocritical bullshit!

Ahmadinejad arrogantly stood before the United Nations assembly ranting on and on about the abuses of power by the Western nations, while cautiously reframing from talking about his own country's abuse of internal power, and being a state sponsor of terrorism inside of Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, and South America. Then Ahmadinejad started sniveling about how the U.N. was impotent in its abilities to effectively solve the world's problems, and blah, blah, blah. Then news media cameras showed nation audience members. Some people were holding their own little private conversations, others were picking their noses, and one black man looked like his ass was nearly comatose because his mouth was hung open, and he was cutting some heavy zzzz. Several other people were asleep, too. Nobody seemed to really give a good damn what Ahmadinejad was saying, and this is probably why his ass wasn't arrested for human rights violations, or being a state sponsor of terrorism throughout the Middle East.

So, what do you think, should Ahmadinejad be taken seriously about wanting to help bring peace to the world? Is there really "sovereignty" inside of Iran, and do you thing Ahmadinejad is a hypocrit for trying to point a finger at the Western powers concerning violating other nation's sovereignty, when the Iranian people's sovereignty is violated by their own government if they so much as breath wrong? Or, should he be arrested and charged with human rights violations for executing people for being homosexual, or immoral? Should Columbia University have invited Ahmadinejad to speak at their school? And, do you think Mamoud Ahmadinejad is strang,crazy, or politically a lot like president Bush?

HOW YA BEEN ASS CLOWN :-(

Hey multi name poster, I'm just going to ignore you-

One interesting aspect of the attacks on Bollinger is that no one is stating his comments against Madmood Ahmhavenajihad were false, only that they were rude. As though its rude to tell a murderer that he is a murderer.

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NO it wasn't just that Bollinger's comments were rude, he blindly stepped into Ahmadinejad's political trap of making Americans look like arrogant, pompous hegemones, who only want things their own way, instead of working with other nations with fair and equal diplomacy. I'm sure Bollinger is not a hegemone, but the rest of the world doesn't know this. Ahmadinejad is a very manipulative, and cunning politically. He seems to know just want political buttons to push in order to get the proper response from American politicians, and a lot of Americans. Now, Ahmadinejad is no victim in all of this Middle East mess, and you can be sure he didn't just come to America to speak at Columbia University without some kind of personal political motive. And, Bollinger shouldn't have said what he said, because the world and most Americans already know Ahmadinejad is a murderer. And Bollinger only looked like he was being arrogant, and was on the defensive and trying to divert attention away from talking about the mess in the Middle East, Iran's own part in state sponsered terrorism, and Iran's motives for having a nuclear program. Surely Bollinger didn't invite Iran's president to the U.S., just so he could rant about Ahmadinejad being a murderer-especially when the majority of people in America already know this fact. Surely Bollinger wasn't wasting everyones time with this petty rant. (Bull )

If you are correct then Columbia should never had invited him period. What was the point other than allowing this asshole a forum?

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Personally, I don't think Columbia University should have invited Ahmadinejad to come and speak at their University, because they did just that-provide him a valid forum/political platform, where he could spew to the entire world his criminal political viewpoints on the Middle East, and lie and deny being a state sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East, lie about the blatant human rights violations of homosexuals in Iran by torturing them for being homosexual, and then murdering them. Iran also tortures non homosexual citizens who engage in what Iran considers to be immoral behavior-and they are also killed, too. Ahmadinejad stood before Columbia University and said Iran didn't have homosexuals in their country. The audience laughed, but they failed to read deeper into what Ahmadinejad was really saying. What he was saying is Iran doesn't have homosexuals in their country, because no one in Iran is going to be stupid enough to admit to being homosexual unless they want to be tortured and murdered. And, by Columbia University inviting Ahmadinejad to speak, they only gave him validation around the world amongst Arab terrorists, Palestinians, and the average Arab that his own state sponsored terrrorism, his building a nuclear program, and his blatant threats to rid the Middle East of Israel is warranted. And, evidently this is true in the eyes of the world, because an American university formally invited Ahmadinejad to speak-even though the American president has stated over and over that America will not negotiate with terrorist, or have anything to do with them.

Homosexuals get bashed, tortured and killed in America everyday. They do not have the same rights all over the country like other citizens do, so in this being a state sanctioned event in Iran, does it make it any more criminal or absurd than the events that occur in America.
If you are going to read between the lines, at least fill in the gaps first.

Yeah, I know homosexuals are bashed, tortured, and killed in the U.S. You're missing the entire point. Bush hasn't been speaking before Columbia University denying that homosexuals exit in America, or trying to hide the abuse. Hell, the republicans have more homosexual politicians than any political group, and the American government overall has its fair share, too. Bush also didn't go before the United Nations lying about being a state sponsor of terrorism like Ahmadinejad did. Nor has Bush ordered homosexuals to be jailed, tortured, and then put to death, like Ahmadinejad. To the contrary, the American government is trying to give homosexuals the right to marry, and create more civil rights laws that specifically protect homosexuals. Homosexuals in America are bashed, tortured, and killed by other American citizens-not by government sanctions like they are in Iran. There's a huge difference, and when a government sanctions the killing of people because of their lifestyle-then they are in violation of that person's human rights. Ahmadinejad is a hypocrit, because he's done exactly the opposite of what he ranted about at the U.N. And, he can't point the finger at the Western nations, and declare that the Western nations have been hegemonic, and have violated other nations sovereignty, and human rights, when he has done the same inside of his own country to a lot of his own citizens. Ahmadinejad can't talk about helping the world create peace, when he has and still is blatantly sponsoring terrorism in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, and South America. Insurgents who have been captured in Iraq, and Afghanistan have admitted to coming from Iran, and weapons confiscated in Iraq and Afghanistan have nomenclatures/serial numbers on them that identify them as Iranian weapons made between 2003-present. So, Iran can't lie and say these weapons are from the Iran/Iraq war of the 1980s. Iran also provides money and training for insurgents, and various terrorist groups such as Hamas. And, if Ahmadinejad is lying about all of this-which he is-then what makes you think he isn't lying about creating nuclear weapons from his nuclear program? Ahmadinejad may seem charming, or cunning, or even a victim to you, but make no mistake, he's a very smart, violent, and evil man, and Iran is the lead nation in the Middle East, therefore, it is in Iran's best political, economic, religious, and military interest to engage in the war mess in the Middle East, so that they don't lose their present standing in the Middle East. Ahmadinejad came to America after he was invited to do so, and then suckered a lot of misguided people. However, the majority of Americans are not buying his bull

Yes now America legaly imprisons tortures and executes homosexuals just for being gay. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT. YES THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT TRY TO STOMP ON OTHERS RIGHTS THATS WHY WE HAVE LAWS AGAINST IT DUHHHHHHH DO THEY HAVE THAT IN IRAN NOOOOOOO. SO STATES HAVE NOT MADE IT LEGAL FOR THEM TO MARRY BUT THEY CAN SUCK AND FUCK THE HELL OUT OF EACH OTHER THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL IS THAT SO IN IRAN NOOOOOOOOO TAKE ANY GAY AND ASK THEM WHERE THEY RATHER LIVE NOW FILL THE MIDDLE OF THAT LINE IN. GOD DAMN WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SUCH JACKASSES. DO THEY HAVE HATE CRIME LAWS IN IRAN NO THEY KILL THEM GAPPPP THAT AND QUIT SLANTING BULLSHIT IT ONLY SERVES TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH WHAT ARE YOU GAY IS THAT WHY YOUR CRYING

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