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Old 09-25-2007, 04:44 PM
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"As Pat Buchanan said Sunday on Meet The Press, Iran has made several attempts to open negotiation with the USA and Bush has rejected them all."

>>>Saddam also made several attempts to negotiate with the U.S. If somebody stands in the way of something we want (in this case we want people to say only good things about Isreal), the idea is to hit him with a full court zio-media blitz demonizing him, marginalize him by not speaking with him or allowing him to speak and, finally, invade him after a sufficient number of Americans are bleating for his head.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:52 PM
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When Israel gets attacked you claim it is their fault then also, right?

Give up their nuclear advantage (which was NOT provided by the US) in exchange for our protection? WTF??? The US didn't provide Israel with a "nuclear advantage", the French actually helped them with building their reactors.

The sanctions against Iran have been in place since 1979 and no President has lifted the sanctions - first step in an open dialogue. There are reasons for this.
Tell me, what election by the people or whatever created and established the State of Israel? Compare the process that resulted in the creation of Israel with the sequence of events that created the democratic Islamic Republic of Iran?

For example, when did the people for to draft a constitution establishing a Jewish state, and what was the vote? Then what was the vote for the ratification of the constitution?

Perhaps you can make a case for the State of Israel having at least the same legitimacy as the Islamic Republic of Iran, but I doubt it.

(I don't consider Israel to be any more or less legitimate from the perspective of the UN than Iran, or for that matter, Iraq with Saddam as dictator, and I sure wish that Bush wasn't claiming that he has any principles when he declares elected officials to be dictators and the military dictators to democratic. Given Bush praising the military coup overthrowing a democratic Pakistani government, his position on the elected, and increasingly unpopular president of Iran with much much much less power than the Pakistani dictator. If Iran had nukes, which it doesn't, and I am positive Iran is not trying to make, the president of Iran would not have any power to use them, while the the military dictator of Pakistan not only has nukes, but he has the power to order them used.)
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:00 PM
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I wonder how many posters pretending to be American citizens are actually Al Queda operatives? Some posters certainly appear to be as anti American as anyone I have ever run across
I agree.

Those who spin Islamic military dictators with nukes into good friends of the US and partners in the war on terror which originated within the military that he was a general, while arguing that an elected president without nukes is a military dictator threatening the world with nuclear war are certainly anti-American.

The only motive they seem to have is to eat the United States from within by bleeding the nation and its people to death with pointless wars with imaginary enemies in ways that create anger, hatred, and finally war against the US.

When Pat Buchannan is the most rational and moderate Republican around, it is clear the Republican party has been infiltrated by the Axis of Evil, dirty commies, the ACLU, and atheists.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:23 PM
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"The US will take care of President Tom before Bush leaves office. I hope."

>>>Might as well, now that Bush doesn't have a legacy worth salvaging.
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