That was the point of the sarcasm, many hold the cognation to thought that it is not as emotionally traumatic to a "child" just because he has been culturally brain washed to 'think' that it is the right of any "man" to have sexual relations with any women, but on the other side it is terrible for a "lady" to have sex, and in particular before she is married. And it seems to still be holding true to form, as I can sense that even you are 'buying" into this very "male" point of view. "YOU", that are among the first to stand up for womens rights. We are simply "culturally biased" when it comes to sex, in any shape or form....to include, immorally and illegally "raping" someone.....why should the "amount" of trauma even be a consideration to the crime? Does this just make it more socially acceptable? That is like saying that when someone was murdered, it was done quickly without much emotional suffering therefore the punishment should not be as severe. Dead is Dead, and raped is raped, it does not matter how nice of an action it was it still was an "illegal" action. And the punishment should fit the crime, regardless to the nature or sex of the perpetrator. BD

I agree BD. We do not protect our young boys from female predators. I would even guess that it is alot more prevalent than we realise because of the bias. Which makes absolutely no sense, since boys mature emotionally at a slower rate than females.

Yes is it not strange the way the different sexs mature? A young man reaches his sexual peek in his teens....long before he has the emotional or mental ability to "understand" the implications that comes along with this physical pleasure and on the other hand a young lady reaches emotional and mental stability long before the male as women are reaching their sexual peek about the same time men are beginning to "physically" deteriorate......I guess "God" does know what he is doing, doesn't he? For I personally know of some men that would simply not have made it through life if they had not had the pleasure of being harnessed by a "strong willed" woman, to control this emotional instability. Some call it "settling down".....I call it "marring down". BD

This goes a long way to explain the "emotional aloofness" that women complain men have. Why would a man, whose first sexual experience could be described as a "fling", find a true emotional attachment to his partner? Perhaps it's the fact that so many male children are raised with the idea, sometimes refered to as "instinct", to procreate with as many women as possible. This observation does NOT apply to all men, but has filtered down to a large portion of the male population, at least in our society.

Female predators are just as dangerous as male predators. Damage IS damage, be it emotional or physical. It would seem all are in agreement on that point.

Wow, that last couple of sentences almost sound like you are pissed at something I said. Personally, I don't buy into the idea that men reach their sexual "peak" in their teens, and that women reach it in their forties. Is there really any such thing as a sexual "peak". All I have is opinion, but this would probably make a very interesting thread all on itself.

My brother in law committed suicide over this type of shit when he was a teen . After I looked into it , I had found out MORE than I wanted to know . The boy was confused AND hooked on heroine that some fine upstanding gay businessman had been giving him . This businessman is now dead and he left a family behind so I will not give out his name but YOU have heard of him . The kid starting acting and dressing gay , I don't know what else he was doing I did not ask .This was DONE to him ! He was perfectly normal before those monsters got their hooks into him ! You can keep saying it over and over but yes they do recruit because they cannot reproduce ! this may not be the PC version of life for you , I am telling you what I have seen with my OWN eyes ! Why do you think the goddamn schools are PUSHING the gay agenda ? They need more BODIES ! Aids has decimated their ranks and they are running short . You know , the sad thing about it is this , people that think as you do perpetuate the problem because that boys death was looked at like just another dead fag , instead of the child abuse it really was !

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Pederasty and pedophilia are both illegal and the perpetrators should always be prosecuted. My insistence that recruitment is not possible has NOTHING to do with political correctness and everything to do with sexual orientation. For example, many female prostitutes are lesbians and view men as business and that's all. A young man or boy who sells himself for material gain has the same view of gay men. The contact does NOT make them gay. It makes them financially enhanced. Prostitution is not recruitment. What do you mean "people who think as I do?" What I think about chicken hawks could blow up my computer. I think they should be run down in the street and have said so publicly. Gay or straight pederasts/pedophiles are absolute vermin that should be run down in the streets. Don't know how you got any idea that I think differently. I would NEVER defend them under any circumstances. Please remember that. All I said and will say is that seduction is NOT recruitment. Prostitution does not change a person's sexual orientation and make a boy a gay male. If molestation could dictate orientation, there might not be ANY lesbians. To say otherwise is not reality. I was molested by an uncle and was raped by a date. Did those events MAKE me heterosexual? NO! They made me angry and difficult to get along with, but did not alter my orientation. Trust was hard to come by and my guy had to work long and patiently, bless his heart.

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Well I see a more insidious motive than you do . Lesbians have nothing to do with this . These monsters look for disillusioned , lost , and hurt , children and young men . The lesbian thing is all the rage in schools and I do not like that either but I am NOT talking about that . A woman can get a pass on lesbianism , a man cannot get such a pass without changing his geographic and social status . I have known gay men that would not dream of ruining a young life in that way , I have known just as many that FANTASIZE about it .Time to STOP teaching kids that homosexuality is just an "alternative lifestyle" . Such BULLSHIT should be illegal to teach in schools !

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Rdnor, we seem to have broadened the margins of this discussion again, and PC is not my motive, but will say that teaching tolerance in the schools, imo, is not an attempt at recruitment. Imo, it is an attempt to stem the tide of teenage suicides. Kids who are struggling with their self identication often kill themselves when they believe they are gay. Suicide is rampant in our country and sexual orientation is often the cause. I just do not believe that recruitment is possible. That's our only disagreement from what I can see here. If it were possible, why wouldn't the 98% of gays who are raised by heterosexual parents turn out straight? Comes from within, not from without.

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Nope not angry at all, the only thing to be angered over would the way many have taken advantage of our youth and stolen their innocence away,all to quickly. I find that childhood is more important than learning to read and write and the scholastic things many place as superior to emotional development, a development that effects the entirety of ones life. I am a strong believer that a child should have a certain amount of time to make emotional "adjustments" and should not be force feed statical data such as numbers and letters in to rapid a fashion, just be allowed to develop at their own pace to be allowed to settle into a lifelong "habit" of learning. Their "little" ego's can be burned out just as can ours if we try to advance them at to rapid a pace.......let them be children without worries or problems while they develop their cognation in relation to what is important and what is just play. This is why my "anger" perhaps has shown through my words.......for there nothing so impressionable as a child......and for "any" to force their perverted will upon them, makes me see "red" whether male or female......leave our children alone to enjoy life a little before they must deal in its real cruelties....in due time. BD