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Old 06-08-2006, 06:53 PM
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The question on the surface seems to be about man marrying a man or woman marrying a woman, but that is just the surface. Why should be stop there? Why can't a man marry 2 women? or 2 men for that matter? If it their religious belief, why should we discriminate? Will it stop there? What if my religion is to worship and marry sheep? The Democrats want full seperation of Church and state, well my religion says I can marry sheep and they shouldn't interfere.
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Go marry sheep if you want who cares........is the point.
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:04 PM
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ROFLMAO Eli..... Plenty of sheep on this site.... BWAHHH hahahahahahaha

Here's a little factoid for ya... marriage, as a LEGAL institution in this country and the requisite government licensing and sanctioning thereof, was initiated in response to whites and blacks marrying. Up until that point marriage was strictly a contract between the participants and the church/God. After the civil war All interracial marriages (and only interracial) had to be licensed and documented. Eventually it was seen as an overall revenue generator and region by region, it became law that all marriages had to be licensed.

Awwwww, it's magical isn't it? What a noble institution. On this particular issue, it is the government that needs to get it's nose out of religion's business. So, yeah HuffDawg, if your religion says marry sheep... go for it (*whispers* just stay away from the black ones ) <<<massively fececious

How many more examples do you need aside from the whole of human history do you need to see that anytime religion is involved (specifically one that has privilege over others) in government, bad, bad things happen to the citizens?

No one can possibly be that ignorant of history. Speaking of which, I really wish some of you would go back and read archived threads that deal with the issues you want to debate. So much of this schlock gets hashed and rehashed again and again by the new kids on the block. I'm really not slamming you, it's just a suggestion, albeit a strong one.

Are you here to learn, or are you here to simply sound off?
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Oh yeah, and like mpd8488 says. the divorce rate is 50% in America, I really don't think polygamy is going to be a serious problem.

Let us not forget that throughout most of history, most men could have as many women as they could afford. What it really comes down to is one group trying to push their values on anyone that doesn't already agree with them. Period.
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Old 06-08-2006, 10:51 PM
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LOL Eli...there are plenty of sheaple on this site so maybe someone did marry some sheep!
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:08 PM
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So how is this getting to the point of my uality huh? Do not question my uality because this is not about uality. I have never questioned your uality, but maybe I should.
Really? I thought that "do you enjoy this issue, or are you a concerned citizen" was a thinly veiled implication. If not, than I apologize for any personal attacks. I certainly don't want to take the offensive in that department.


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Homophobia... maybe I fear that our country is getting into to this a little too fast so yes I fear of being gay? Do you? I love the way you point strategically my little flaws in my posts... does it make you a better person knowing at the end of the day that you tryed to comment me on my philosphy of life? Again... you seem to go back to this... is it just me or do you agree with everything I said?
Which "little flaws" did I point out? The one where you implied that gays are not equal, or that there are no gay animals, that immorality and prejudice are like chocolate and peanut butter, that gays are not in their right mind set or that you are not interested in statistics? Those aren't little flaws, those are the basis of your argument, sir.


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Anyhow at the end of the day (like i said in other posts at the end of the day I will still know whats right and whats wrong)
That's great! Knowing right from wrong is the most fundamental virtue. However, you must understand that not everyone agrees with you on definitions of right and wrong. While you are free to believe whatever it is you believe, it is morally treasonable to reduce another group to a second class citizen.
When will we stop legislating morality?


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NG does not educate me but I think you are educating me on how to loose morals and knowlege on uality? If thats what life is about well than I feel sorry for you.
Dude.
I understand that NG doesn't educate you, but maybe something other than right wing radio should. You should probably see differing viewpoints on issues, even if those viewpoints contradict your beliefs, then draw conclusions. That's the beauty of this website, but if you just consistently dismiss evidence that contradicts your beliefs with nothing more than your stubborn prejudice it's not really a debate, it's more like beating up a retard.
I'm not trying to make you lose morals, good god, I'm not telling you to go marry a boy. You should have an open mind and tackle these issues with intelligence not emotion.
As far as knowledge on sexuality, you should have a little of this before you start claiming "facts" of such.

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The question on the surface seems to be about man marrying a man or woman marrying a woman, but that is just the surface. Why should be stop there? Why can't a man marry 2 women? or 2 men for that matter? If it their religious belief, why should we discriminate? Will it stop there? What if my religion is to worship and marry sheep? The Democrats want full seperation of Church and state, well my religion says I can marry sheep and they shouldn't interfere.
I knew someone had to jump on the slippery slope bandwagon. It was only a matter of time. The old, "I don't want no homo marrying my dog" argument.
First there are laws in place against polygamy and the Mormons used to believe that as part of their religion. But people are meant to adapt.
Your argument of the sheep is completely ridiculous. Gay marriage is a union between two consenting adults to legally proclaim their love and commitment to each other. Ever met a consenting sheep? Um..nevermind, I don't wanna know.
Who are you (the collective you) to deprive them of that? Who are you (the literal you) to even remotely imply similiarities between beastiality and homosexuality?

Once again I ask all you who agree with this current administration on this issue...
How does two gay people getting married affect your life? How does it defile your sanctimonious marriage?
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:58 PM
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"President Bush says he is "proud to stand with" those who support a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Many Republicans say traditional marriage strengthens society. Many Democrats say the amendment is a divisive concession to religious conservatives." -CNN.com

>>>This particular Democrat says the amendment is cop-out to avoid the real issues of the day. This is bullsh*t, George. Get real.

Btw, I don't care much for gay marriage either, George. Just that there are 100 Americans and Iraqis dieing everyday you fart around with this 'gay marriage' crap.
There is nothing in the amendment that bans gay marriage. Nothing.
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There is nothing in the amendment that bans gay marriage. Nothing.
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hey, guys not sure why every body is so worried about gays marrying. My relationship with my lovely wife is not threathened by either a civil union or same sex marriages. I think discrimation is wrong.
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Old 06-12-2006, 08:41 PM
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Don't you know that it's the single most destructive force facing civilization today? Next it will be polygamy, then people marrying dolphins... oh wait, that already happened... well maybe hippos or (GASP) the strange platypi.

Just kidding... I agree with you. The hysteria behind this comes from the Christian right. They don't want it recognized in any fashion because then there is no arguing that this great "christian" nation accepts them as equals, and approves of sodomy. Personally, consensual sodomy between two committed people in the privacy of their own neat and tastefully decorated bedroom.. LOL, is none of my business. Just don't ask me to join in.

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