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06-19-2008, 03:41 PM
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First of all, homosexual relationships are as much about affection and fluffy love as heterosexual relationships are. To whom it is directed is the only difference.
Second, that it is "moral degradation" to you doesn't mean it is so to everyone. It's not a crime, or hurts anyone in any way. Whether or not it's still moral or not is nothing but a subjective opinion.
Third, this is one of the flaws of democracy. Mind you, I really, really prefer democracy, but as with anything, it has its flaws. The problem is that even if the majority's opinion is just plain stupid, it can still get through. Banning gay marriage serves no purpose beyond satisfying said majority, who have the same subjective opinion on it as you have. That's all it does.
Unfortunately for the majority in some places, some people have realized that things such as a ban on gay marriage is nothing but an unnecessary, pointless restriction of the rights of a minority.
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06-19-2008, 04:30 PM
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First of all, homosexual relationships are as much about affection and fluffy love as heterosexual relationships are. To whom it is directed is the only difference. No argument here, you know except for the whores and their are more straight whores than homosexual ones.
Second, that it is "moral degradation" to you doesn't mean it is so to everyone. Being homosexual isn't immoral but shoving it kid's faces is. It's not a crime, or hurts anyone in any way. Actually it is a crime and you know the day of silence actually uses school funds in their sign up process. Those are funds that could be used legitimately somewhere else, so its hurting any school that is lacking for funds which are all over the place. Whether or not it's still moral or not is nothing but a subjective opinion.
Third, this is one of the flaws of democracy. Mind you, I really, really prefer democracy, but as with anything, it has its flaws. The problem is that even if the majority's opinion is just plain stupid, it can still get through. Banning gay marriage serves no purpose beyond satisfying said majority, who have the same subjective opinion on it as you have. That's all it does. Your right, of course if you want to overturn gay marriage laws you might as well overturn the 5 million other dumb laws our country has. When your done it wouldn't even be america, not that it is necessarily a bad thing
Unfortunately for the majority in some places, some people have realized that things such as a ban on gay marriage is nothing but an unnecessary, pointless restriction of the rights of a minority.
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There are many more unjust laws then that. Why don't u start with those?
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06-19-2008, 09:27 PM
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There are many more unjust laws then that. Why don't u start with those?
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does anybody realize that the DOS is not school endorsed. Its a kid organized day.
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06-20-2008, 10:18 AM
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does anybody realize that the DOS is not school endorsed. Its a kid organized day.
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I saw some homos on tv last night saying the school should provide resources for signing up for the day of silence crap
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06-20-2008, 10:28 AM
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There are many more unjust laws then that. Why don't u start with those?
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So you agree that it's unjust? Good. Believe me, I'd love to get rid of any other unjust laws too, but gay marriage is as good as any place to start.
Note that I don't have any particular personal reason to do so. Gay marriage is all fine and dandy in Norway now, so it's not something that would make a difference for me.
As for the DoS... I do agree that it shouldn't be funded by the schools themselves. If for nothing else, then because from what I've seen, schools have trouble enough funding the educaction these days. On the other hand, I see absolutely no problem with it beyond that.
Mind you, before you mention anything about "converting" again, the whole idea that homosexuals "convert" in the first place is ridiculous. Some people are gay, others are not. Perhaps things like the DoS convince some to come out, which could be seen as "converting" from a twisted, slightly delusional perspective. Seriously, it's not.
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06-20-2008, 10:45 AM
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So you agree that it's unjust? Good. Believe me, I'd love to get rid of any other unjust laws too, but gay marriage is as good as any place to start.
No it is pretty much insignificant compared to other issuesNote that I don't have any particular personal reason to do so. Gay marriage is all fine and dandy in Norway now, so it's not something that would make a difference for me. So why not have some courage and tackle some real issues?
As for the DoS... I do agree that it shouldn't be funded by the schools themselves. If for nothing else, then because from what I've seen, schools have trouble enough funding the educaction these days. On the other hand, I see absolutely no problem with it beyond that. FYI they are asking for funding from schools
Mind you, before you mention anything about "converting" again, the whole idea that homosexuals "convert" in the first place is ridiculous. Some people are gay, others are not. Pretty much what I am saying is the gay people don't really seriously expect to convert people, as long as they get the attention their depraved souls crave they could care less Perhaps things like the DoS convince some to come out, which could be seen as "converting" from a twisted, slightly delusional perspective. Seriously, it's not.
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Its a waste of student's valuable time at best
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06-20-2008, 11:53 AM
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FYI to you: no it is not funded by the school. What funding do you need for a Day of SIlence, do they pay you to be silent? NO. My DOS i paid to put it together, i paid for wristbands etc... our own money not the schools. So stop complaining.
You say gay marriage is not a big issue, for thousands of people it is. Like how banning books is a big issue to hundreds. The right to marry is a right that every person wants and should be able to get. That, the right to live a happy life with the one you love, is a huge issue to me.
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06-20-2008, 12:18 PM
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FYI to you: no it is not funded by the school. The homos are asking for funding and thats a fact What funding do you need for a Day of SIlence, my point exactly, I guess its not really about some little boy which is what I already told you do they pay you to be silent? NO. My DOS i paid to put it together, i paid for wristbands etc... our own money not the schools. So stop complaining. If you weren't asking for money I would
You say gay marriage is not a big issue, for thousands of people it is. Like how banning books is a big issue to hundreds. The right to marry is a right that every person wants and should be able to get. That, the right to live a happy life with the one you love, is a huge issue to me.
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06-20-2008, 01:49 PM
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there is no funding from schools, go find me a fact that says funding is provided, GOD! your stupid.
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06-20-2008, 02:44 PM
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there is no funding from schools, go find me a fact that says funding is provided, GOD! your stupid.
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From what I've gathered, it isn't, but there are some who want it to be.
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