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05-17-2008, 07:56 PM
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My Research Paper
I wrote a paper on how i am Anti-Gay Marriage, just to see the other point of view. I realized though from research that there really is no solid argument against Gay marriage. Here is what my research paper included:
1. Leads to Polygamy
2. Harms Children
3. Ruin law of marriage
4. Society will crumble due to the homosexuals
5. It's in the Bible
I wrote a 15 page paper on this, and the whole time fought with myself to think like a Anti-Gay. It worked I got an A.
Here is my rebuttles though (they have all been shortened:
1. No it would not, like a straight couple if you've found the right person and love them and have the will to not cheat and sleep around. THen you wont, same for homosexuals. We think no different
2. WHY, may I ask? and How? (dont throw stats at me because i can give you stats on how most stats are made up XD) Children grow up in homes with one parent, and some kids grow up with both and end up fucked up. Some kids from straight parents end up gay, and some kids from gay families end up straight it is a choice. Homosexuals and Heteorsexuals are the same, everyones parenting ways are different.
3. Law of marriage is... well someone find me the laws. you all say: a union of a man and woman. But allowing Homosexuals to marry will not stop man and woman from joining.
4. Society will not crumble- why would it. Homosexuals have been around forever. Poeple think what they think and act how they want to act, how would allowing homosexuals to marry hurt society. In my opinion it would help: overpopulation of the world, the world need homosexuals to adopt. We dont add to the problem we help.
5. Ok in the bible homosexuals are mentioned. It does not directly state that they will go to hell. It states that it is frowned upon and needs forgiving, but i ask this if God is loving of all, why does it matter? In the bible it also states that everyone is an image of God, everyone loved and that is how everyone should lead their lives: love. THEN WHY THE HECK ARE CHRISTIANS DOIN THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HIS TEACHINGS?
(there was more to the paper but im tired)
P.S. i gave a speech and everyone during the speech was getting really angry about what i was saying, then at the end i came out to everyone and told them that i just spoke about an issue that i belive the exact opposite in. I still have friends (even more now) and now a teacher that respects me.
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05-17-2008, 08:15 PM
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Damn son, you missed the most obvious reason of all.
Nature.
Plain and simple nature. We exist on this planet for the simple reason of sex between opposite genders. Without it, we'd cease to exist. Nature does not require marriage I admit but marriage DOES promote nature's intent. Thus promoting nature is always suppose to be the politically correct way to govern a nation.
So, the liberal stance should be to promote nature's will through legislation making marriage between a man and a woman.
the conservative stance would be on the fact they find it offensive, crude or gross, etc...
If you're really trying to devise a paper you really need to consider the entire NATURE aspect as an argument point. Furthermore, the argument of homosexuality being a choice (not nature) then you can argue that nobody with such a mental problem should be allowed marriage until it's proved they are of a healthy mind.
Seriously, if you want to write this paper please consider some of what I typed. It will show MUCH more thought went into it than what you've already written.
Edited to add- After reading your entire post it's obvious to me your professor cares nothing about an argument of an opposing side nearly as much as he/she cares about being on the right side of the argument. What you typed does not sound like you remotely tried to argue the other side of the issue but instead reinforce your own side.
Last edited by Tileman : 05-17-2008 at 08:18 PM.
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05-17-2008, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tileman
Damn son, you missed the most obvious reason of all.
Nature.
Plain and simple nature. We exist on this planet for the simple reason of sex between opposite genders. Without it, we'd cease to exist. Nature does not require marriage I admit but marriage DOES promote nature's intent. Thus promoting nature is always suppose to be the politically correct way to govern a nation.
So, the liberal stance should be to promote nature's will through legislation making marriage between a man and a woman.
the conservative stance would be on the fact they find it offensive, crude or gross, etc...
If you're really trying to devise a paper you really need to consider the entire NATURE aspect as an argument point. Furthermore, the argument of homosexuality being a choice (not nature) then you can argue that nobody with such a mental problem should be allowed marriage until it's proved they are of a healthy mind.
Seriously, if you want to write this paper please consider some of what I typed. It will show MUCH more thought went into it than what you've already written.
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GOD! read the whole thing people: i said i already wrote the paper! got an A and also that i didnt put everything i wrote in my paper on here. JUST THE ARGUMENTS THAT I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE USE THE MOST.
thanks for your concern though...
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05-17-2008, 08:27 PM
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Edited to add- After reading your entire post it's obvious to me your professor cares nothing about an argument of an opposing side nearly as much as he/she cares about being on the right side of the argument. What you typed does not sound like you remotely tried to argue the other side of the issue but instead reinforce your own side.
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You did not add that part when you quoted me.
We have all had professors that grade us more on the political side we chose than they did the actual quality of the assignment. To say otherwise would be lying. I was forced time and again to write what the professor wanted to hear or even a perfect paper would get a failing grade.
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05-17-2008, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tileman
You did not add that part when you quoted me.
We have all had professors that grade us more on the political side we chose than they did the actual quality of the assignment. To say otherwise would be lying. I was forced time and again to write what the professor wanted to hear or even a perfect paper would get a failing grade.
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what did that have a point, i just was saying that i did include what u said, nature, into my paper. OMG this isnt an argument your making up new things to say that have NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IM SAYING!!!!
SOMEONE Who can keep on one single train of thought please say something!!!!
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05-17-2008, 09:51 PM
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It says to execute them.
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Originally Posted by frycat101
I wrote a paper on how i am Anti-Gay Marriage, just to see the other point of view. I realized though from research that there really is no solid argument against Gay marriage. Here is what my research paper included:
1. Leads to Polygamy
2. Harms Children
3. Ruin law of marriage
4. Society will crumble due to the homosexuals
5. It's in the Bible
I wrote a 15 page paper on this, and the whole time fought with myself to think like a Anti-Gay. It worked I got an A.
Here is my rebuttles though (they have all been shortened:
1. No it would not, like a straight couple if you've found the right person and love them and have the will to not cheat and sleep around. THen you wont, same for homosexuals. We think no different
2. WHY, may I ask? and How? (dont throw stats at me because i can give you stats on how most stats are made up XD) Children grow up in homes with one parent, and some kids grow up with both and end up fucked up. Some kids from straight parents end up gay, and some kids from gay families end up straight it is a choice. Homosexuals and Heteorsexuals are the same, everyones parenting ways are different.
3. Law of marriage is... well someone find me the laws. you all say: a union of a man and woman. But allowing Homosexuals to marry will not stop man and woman from joining.
4. Society will not crumble- why would it. Homosexuals have been around forever. Poeple think what they think and act how they want to act, how would allowing homosexuals to marry hurt society. In my opinion it would help: overpopulation of the world, the world need homosexuals to adopt. We dont add to the problem we help.
5. Ok in the bible homosexuals are mentioned. It does not directly state that they will go to hell. It states that it is frowned upon and needs forgiving, but i ask this if God is loving of all, why does it matter? In the bible it also states that everyone is an image of God, everyone loved and that is how everyone should lead their lives: love. THEN WHY THE HECK ARE CHRISTIANS DOIN THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HIS TEACHINGS?
(there was more to the paper but im tired)
P.S. i gave a speech and everyone during the speech was getting really angry about what i was saying, then at the end i came out to everyone and told them that i just spoke about an issue that i belive the exact opposite in. I still have friends (even more now) and now a teacher that respects me.
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It says to execute them.
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05-18-2008, 04:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tileman
Damn son, you missed the most obvious reason of all.
Nature.
Plain and simple nature. We exist on this planet for the simple reason of sex between opposite genders. Without it, we'd cease to exist. Nature does not require marriage I admit but marriage DOES promote nature's intent. Thus promoting nature is always suppose to be the politically correct way to govern a nation.
So, the liberal stance should be to promote nature's will through legislation making marriage between a man and a woman.
the conservative stance would be on the fact they find it offensive, crude or gross, etc...
If you're really trying to devise a paper you really need to consider the entire NATURE aspect as an argument point. Furthermore, the argument of homosexuality being a choice (not nature) then you can argue that nobody with such a mental problem should be allowed marriage until it's proved they are of a healthy mind.
Seriously, if you want to write this paper please consider some of what I typed. It will show MUCH more thought went into it than what you've already written.
Edited to add- After reading your entire post it's obvious to me your professor cares nothing about an argument of an opposing side nearly as much as he/she cares about being on the right side of the argument. What you typed does not sound like you remotely tried to argue the other side of the issue but instead reinforce your own side.
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So... All those people who use birth control are going to hell, right?
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05-18-2008, 09:51 AM
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So... All those people who use birth control are going to hell, right?
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What does that have to do with the price of rice in China?
If you think I'm a religious zealot you'd be wrong.
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05-18-2008, 10:00 AM
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You're just an idiot, Tileman.
Apparently unable to read also.
Oh, and your story about college professors requiring you to write falsehoods to please them....?
Bullshit.
All Republicants are frauds, bigots, racists and poseurs.
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05-18-2008, 10:02 AM
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Sorry, one gets used to people speaking out against homosexuals being religious after a while.
My point still stands though. Neither gay sex nor straight sex with birth control produces a baby. Following your logic, birth control is wrong too.
Besides, we're already overpopulating this planet. Why some people still insist on encouraging more and more procreation is beyond me. No more or less people would be gay if homosexuality wasn't stigmatized. We'd still reproduce. Humanity wouldn't cease to exist.
Finally, homosexuality has been around for millenniums. It's fairly common among other species too. Surely this would mean that there is nothing unnatural about it? After all, natural selection has a tendency of eliminating anything that serves no purpose, which could mean that homosexuality has a reason to exist.
Really, what's with the whole idea that if homosexuality isn't constantly stigmatized, the whole world would be gay anyway?
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