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Old 05-11-2008, 08:06 AM
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See, aren't things better when you can accept who you are?
To confirm my self confidence, I feel no need to advertise my heterosexuality and force those beliefs on Homos.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:08 AM
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To confirm my self confidence, I feel no need to advertise my heterosexuality and force those beliefs on Homos.
I'm sure most Homos know you are straight.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:42 AM
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You really are clueless, aren't you.

Alright, I assume you're a man attracted to females. That's nice and all. You're not a lesbian, you're a straight man. If you were a lesbian, you'd have a brain wired for a female body, which it seems very unlikely that you have.

In other words, your body fits your identity, and as such there is no conflict.

Also, again, transsexuals are not gay people who change their genitals so that they can get sex more easily. Just in case that's what you think.
Every person has a conflict with their body. I know of no person that is perfectly happy with their body.
Similar to Homosexuality, there is a mental illness involved, extreme insecurity.
This insecurity is played out in different ways. Not embracing the opposite sex, having your genitals mutilated, forcing your sexual orientation to be accepted by people through discriminatory laws etc.....
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:45 AM
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Every person has a conflict with their body. I know of no person that is perfectly happy with their body.
Similar to Homosexuality, there is a mental illness involved, extreme insecurity.
This insecurity is played out in different ways. Not embracing the opposite sex, having your genitals mutilated, forcing your sexual orientation to be accepted by people through discriminatory laws etc.....
If everyone has it...how can it be called a mental illness?
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Every person has a conflict with their body. I know of no person that is perfectly happy with their body.
Similar to Homosexuality, there is a mental illness involved, extreme insecurity.
This insecurity is played out in different ways. Not embracing the opposite sex, having your genitals mutilated, forcing your sexual orientation to be accepted by people through discriminatory laws etc.....
There's just something funny about listening to people speaking about things they have absolutely no clue about.

Yes, most people aren't happy with their bodies. The difference here is, well... Let's take you, for example. When you look at your arms and chest, chances are you'll be thinking something along the lines of "I should exercise a bit more often". However, the male with a female brain structure will be distressed by the large arms and lack of breasts.

There's very little psychological to it. Stop claiming it's a mental illness. It only shows how little you know about the subject. The only insecurity involved stems from the pressure society puts on them to be someone they're not.

Also, an interesting fact: People who later come out as transsexuals have a tendency of being late bloomers, and often even displaying vague physical traits of the other sex. For example, it's not uncommon for later FtMs to have very subtle, but still abnormally masculine bone structures.

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Old 05-11-2008, 11:30 AM
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It has nothing to do with will, BD, it's a matter of correcting what nature did wrong.
Did nature "volunteer" to place my ass into that situation in the first place? No, it was done by none other than "myself", I knew the risks and the circumstance that I would face. Was it natures fault that I would not take the advise of medical professionals and give my limb enough time to accept the arterial graft in my leg, or did I out of pomposity and pride go about doing what "I" wanted to, resulting in serve infection not once but twice with the inevitable outcome the "loss" of the lower part of that limb? Phantom pain? Yes, I know exactly about such, "mental" deficiency....yes I know of this also. Do I think that it is a serious medical condition? I know for a fact that it is, after losing a wife, a son, a business, and going through various sources of "self medication" to ignore the severity of such condition, yes I know that it is serious. But, "ONLY", when one makes the choice of deciding to overcome such, can real changes be made. Nothing can be accomplished without "self help". Do not "baby" anyone with these self gestated diseases or it will consume them and allow them to be eternally captured within the confines of their own mind. The HELL that I spent was not on the battlefield, but battling the mental demons that accompanied me home, yes I know exactly about such conditions. And no textbook will make me realize anything any different than what I have experienced. Life is not engaged in a book of theory, it unfolds one page at a time directed by the actions of our free will choices. BD
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Old 05-11-2008, 11:34 AM
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Here's an interesting read also:

A Primer on Transsexuality
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anyone ever read anything by Kate Bornstein? or watch any shows with her?

how about the book Pomosexuals?
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there is no such thing as being born in the wrong body. thats a fucking stupid metaphor for whats going on. Obviously transsexuality is not nature but entirely nurture. It requires a complex awareness of a gender dynamics before someone can not feel like their own gender. How could a body evolve in any evolutionary context to dislike its own body? That such bullshit. Also the rate of sexual abuse amongst transsexuals is almost a direct correlation.
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there is no such thing as being born in the wrong body. thats a fucking stupid metaphor for whats going on. Obviously transsexuality is not nature but entirely nurture. It requires a complex awareness of a gender dynamics before someone can not feel like their own gender. How could a body evolve in any evolutionary context to dislike its own body? That such bullshit. Also the rate of sexual abuse amongst transsexuals is almost a direct correlation.
no thats exactly what it is.
did you ever watch the shows or read about transgenered children?
they have little idea about gender dynamics. and none of the children shown were ever abused. nor are there any reports that trasn people are abuse victims.

its the brain being one sex and the body being the other
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